Adamantium Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Game Hero Kill experience increased by about 10% Jungle experience reduced by about 20% Hero selection circles are more consistent with Hero model sizes ('hitbox') Items Cerebro (active): Updated sound and visuals Kuras: Healing Reduction: 50% -> 40% Tenderizer: Damage: +25 -> +10 Cauterizer: Damage: +50 -> +30; Healing Reduction: 50% -> 40% Everthirst: Energy Regain: 4.5% Missing Energy -> 6% Missing Energy. - Health Regain: 9% -> 10% Revolver Price: 1250 -> 1550 Blackhole/Revolver: Deals 60% Damage on Ranged Heroes Prophecy Stone/Omniscience placement range: 7 -> 8 Heroes Shadow: Updated Alt Skin Garamond: E - HP: 2/2/3/4 -> 2/2/3/3; Can no longer be targeted by abilities. R - SCV Movement Speed Bonus: 15% -> 25% - Scaling: 28% -> 30% Greelus: HP- Updated visuals Jackson: Attack Damage: 42 -> 38 Cyprus: R - Base Damage: 400/ 600/ 800 -> 300/ 400/ 500 - Rock Base Damage: 30/ 50/ 70 -> 40/ 65/ 90 Immortal: Q - No longer deals reduced damage to creep E - Now Global; Now also grants (+.15% Target Max Energy) Energy Regen Micro: E - Movespeed Duration: 3.5s -> 4.5s Pyro: E - Current Health Scaling: 8% -> 5% Rory: Alt skin disabled temporarily Darpa: R - Range: 8u -> 10u Artanis: AA, HP, Q, W, E, R - Updated sounds Alarak: E - No longer grants Armor Pen Leo: W - Range: 8u/ 12u/ 16u/ 20u -> 35u/ 50u/ 65u/ 80u - Speed No longer changes with proximity to target: 5-15% -> 7-20% -> 9-25%/ 11-30% -> 12%/ 16%/ 20%/ 24% Viron: Attack Damage: 30 -> 40 HP- Now also slows touched enemies by 25% for 2 seconds. R - Now releases Flatulence (W) while spinning Cow: Q - Duration: 11s -> 8s - Now grants 4u vision around the wall R - Vision Radius: 4u -> 7u Cain: Q - Stun Duration: 1s/ 1.33s/ 1.66s/ 2s -> 1.5s/ 1.75s/ 2s/ 2.25s W - Max Stacks: 8 -> 6, Damage: 8/ 14/ 20/ 26 (+1% Target Current Health) -> 10/ 18/ 26/ 34 (+1.25% Target Current Health) MOTHER, GuZ, Revision and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackXioN Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Viron tier 1 pick finally! AND MICRO AA JUNGLE Edit- Wow viron no longer gets C/D from hitting creeps.. Edited February 22, 2017 by BlackXioN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revision Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 wow cain jungle tier 1 now jesus SCV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Viron tier 1 pick finally! AND MICRO AA JUNGLE Edit- Wow viron no longer gets C/D from hitting creeps.. Thanks for pointing out the bug on mumble! Easy Fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revision Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 R - Now releases Flatulence (W) while spinning best patch notes ever SCV and MOTHER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Everthirst: Energy Regain: 4.5% Missing Energy -> 6% Missing Energy. - Health Regain: 9% -> 10% Everthirsty Queen incoming... Seriously though, I thought the item was already good, great even for its relatively cheap price. Alarak:E - No longer grants Armor Pen YAAAAAS! Immortal:Q - No longer deals reduced damage to creep E - Now Global; Now also grants (+.15% Target Max Energy) Energy Regen OMG YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHSSSSSSSS <3<3<3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Why is immortals E global????? But that awesome patch!!!!! Also incoming auto viron!! Edit: Why did actually jungle xp get reduced at all and this much? Edited February 22, 2017 by ZERATUL SCV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I'm glad you didn't go with buffing Immo's AA too Adam. In retrospect, it was either a buff to his Q or his AA, but certainly not both which would've likely broken his laning phase. I'm not a fan of the nerfs to healing reduction, I think those items are critical to keep the health/health regen creep in check. I would nerf other parts of the items, or transplant the health reduction to a new item that is built completely around the health reduction and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackXioN Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Where the medic damage buff....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Where the medic damage buff....... All Medic truly needs is for her ult to proc her heroic passive and for heroic passive to be buffed during ult. It's only logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Cauterizer and tenderizer have less dmg than components is this intended? Edited February 22, 2017 by ZERATUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 buffs too big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 buffs too big Not really IMO. The only one that I feel is too big is Leo's (Should be 10/20/30/40u or 15/30/45/60u at most). Everthirst feels iffy and Viron's HP could become cancer but we'll see. In the context of how the latest generation of heroes were designed, all these buffs feel right at home actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackXioN Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Viron become cancer or become actually useful....you realize Jackson has an area slow as a passive with a large range and the same amount right..... I agree I don't think anything should deal less damage than he component.... leo is going to be fine, he is already such a situation hero.... Edited February 22, 2017 by BlackXioN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Viron become cancer or become actually useful....you realize Jackson has an area slow as a passive with a large range and the same amount right..... Fair point. I'm one of the people who suggested that his heroic get changed to this btw, it's just I don't want Viron to get auto'd. I'm just thinking about how this could get abused in the context of his kit that's all. #TeamViron #Viron2020 #I'mWithIt leo is going to be fine, he is already such a situation hero.... Yeah he will be. I don't think that anything more than 60u will break him, It's just that more than 60u at level 4 isn't necessary in the context of the playable area of the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackXioN Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) I still think melee carries in general need some love, like double the effective amount of parallax :D Does Axiom benefit from ever thirst now? I know when I tested it before he didn't(heat amount) Edited February 22, 2017 by BlackXioN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Leo is fine and will still be only situational pick. I noticed "bug" with leo altho all his abilities work fine. Basicly instead of his W being grayed out its his E(it works fine), w is always coloured but it also works fine, just small mistake I guess. If I had to guess viron and immortal could get autobanned. Edit- Tooltip on immortals E not updated about range. Edit2-jungle is useless Edited February 22, 2017 by ZERATUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Cauterizer/tenderizer will have equal damage to components while you're stealing damage, and less otherwise. Jungle has seemed like a free lane to me so I did some calculations. I think killing 6 camps was about equal to 5 creep waves. Now it's 4. So now, unless you're ganking or killing bosses, you will be a bit behind in XP. No Axiom doesn't benefit from everthirst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Wow what is this Cyprus nerf about? Revert! Did Immortal need a buff? Or 2 buffs? ( Or possibly 3 including some random Ninja buff l) Leo will be interesting with some speed items. Good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I like this patch. Viron will still be hard countered by sliding drake ulti :) I dont mind immortal being strong again its nice when out of meta heroes get some love. MOTHER and Adamantium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Wow what is this Cyprus nerf about? Revert! Did Immortal need a buff? Or 2 buffs? ( Or possibly 3 including some random Ninja buff l) Leo will be interesting with some speed items. Good work Gotta use all your pillars now if you wanna one shot. *Hopefully* Immortal didn't need a buff. But I don't see a problem with him being able to wave clear as well as maar does. With leo, I think the w could be super useful at catching stragglers because of the new distance. The range is like from the artifact to the Firebat camp near mid lane. If I had to guess viron and immortal could get autobanned. I know Viron was never intended to be viable lol. But I just wanna see where this goes. People will still screw up their own team with Q :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Immortal deserves love because immortal is love. Also Viron will actually fart next patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 "But I don't see a problem with him being able to wave clear as well as maar does" So why do jakk mines have reduced dmg vs creeps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Gotta use all your pillars now if you wanna one shot. *Hopefully* Maybe I'm not doing the math right, but even if you use all pilars (blink included) there will be less damage out than before? Immortal didn't need a buff. But I don't see a problem with him being able to wave clear as well as maar does The hero will get more farm than before considering you won't be able to deny as much. On top of that pushing the enemy hero back towards his tower will more likely reduce his opponents farm too, especially when you will have to last hit under the tower competing with immortal shields and the tower damage. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions but I'm pretty sure immortal will be way more annoying to lane against. On top of that he will more likely have a higher net worth after the lane phase while his opponent will have a lower net worth with that change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) lol I cant believe everyone is talking about immortals wave clear now(not saying its not good), but thing that worrys me much more is that for some rason he gives every single hero on the map free energy regen Edited February 22, 2017 by ZERATUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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