SickofOP Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Banned Nafel for 24 hours because he decided he wanted to spec instead of playing when the game didn't even start. Way uncalled for. Kael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Banned? How can he ban? From inh? Or what? Edited April 23, 2015 by Darkr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickofOP Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Banned? How can he ban? From inh? Or what? Banned from mumble. He got banned for 24 hours because after being on hyly's team in the lobby decided he didn't want to play. He said about a week ago that he won't play with hyly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Its on the higher end of reasonable punishment, but a day ban is hardly some abusive action. We've already discussed this on mumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickofOP Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Its on the higher end of reasonable punishment, but a day ban is hardly some abusive action. We've already discussed this on mumble. If we banned people every time for the number of times they decided they wanted to spec or RQ or DC'd from an IH no one would be playing. taznkid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hardly an abusive I guess Adam can go back to using money in pub yaaaaaaaaaay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 this has nothing to do with spec. this is simply a case of rq. albeit arguably lighter because its rq after draft but before the game has started - it is still a player who has no other obligation that is preventing them from playing the game, quitting the game and wasting 9 other people's time. martY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symptom Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) no there was a sub then i refuse to play.i said replace me with that sub. i want to be spec. even if there is no sub they could simply change the team. as long as this type guys be admin i wont play aos. even pub. Edited April 23, 2015 by Symptom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Noo nafel!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydie Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 If we banned people every time for the number of times they decided they wanted to spec or RQ or DC'd from an IH no one would be playing. I heard about this, from what I've heard this is unreasonable action. The community is dying and instead of moderators talking to people to sort out issues we're banning them? No wonder NA struggles to have 2 IH's per night. this has nothing to do with spec. this is simply a case of rq. albeit arguably lighter because its rq after draft but before the game has started - it is still a player who has no other obligation that is preventing them from playing the game, quitting the game and wasting 9 other people's time. So people like Roonaldo/Lolita who 'dodge' draft are also liable to be banned? Seems like its one for EU players and another for everyone else. If the incident occured at 7PM EU time I'm sure there would be players to replace him, taking what an extra 30 seconds? Regarding 'no other obligation' you can't force people to play. Pathetic moderation taking rules out of context. Darkr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I talked to Nafel after this incident. He unequivocally confirmed that he did not play ONLY because he was on a players team who he didn't want to play with. It was nothing to do with real life things he had to deal with or wanting to spec or wanting to let someone else play. Luckily this was at a time that there were more players available to replace him if it had not been it could have wasted a lot of time. Regardless of the time of day this wasted peoples time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symptom Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) where do u know that i didnt check if there is a sub and then i decided to let sub to play? u werent even there. u asked i answered honestly. i said this a weak ago i wont play in same team with this guy. i would keep play to dont stole others time if they wouldnt accept to change my team(there is no sub case). i saw this case like 10 times. even more especially with same guy... i can even tell who were they who refuse to be in same team with this guy... so give a shap or not, i wont play this game as long as yaldi stay admin. Edited April 23, 2015 by Symptom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Banned from mumble. He got banned for 24 hours because after being on hyly's team in the lobby decided he didn't want to play. He said about a week ago that he won't play with hyly. Ok then, ban him from inhouses.He can ban all of you for days and days, but if he's not able to inh, that'll be useless. Leaving the game? Who took a shap in yaldi's cornflakes? He's probably pissed because either rq, or he is mad because of something out of the game and bringing it into the mumble server. @Whale Too high punishment? Here's a good punishment 'Don't do it again' There. No need for ban, what if he just knew that he might not be able to play because someone told him that he needs to go in 30 mins? Rq ingame or in the lobby? And how hard is it to find a sub if there are literally 5 people looking for inhouses at the same time? Once again, mods don't have power over everything. Make a teamspeak server. Join a different mumble server. Hide under a proxy. Watevs. If he bans you for a useless reason (I think) like here, just do the things i mentioned above. Regarding the subject, if I got this all wrong and nafel did have the time just didn't want to play (which is nothing for a 24 hr ban anyways, Ban him from specing the inh) disregard the stuff I said above. Plz dont abuse your powers that you're lucky u got. DERP: Yaldi i read ur post. GG no RE. Disregarded (sorta) DERP 2: You should've just banned him from speccing the game. Don't get pissed so fast plz. Also, Why a 24 hour ban? Replace him, takes literally 10 seconds. And he can't chat to his friends. How would you like it? Once again, ban him from speccing the game. What you did is waaay too much. Mod power abuse trash. Edited April 23, 2015 by Darkr Kael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPlayer Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) I was there, in the same lobby. I think the punishment is kinda bullshap. What I think is more bullshap though, is ragequitting inhouses. Nafel you need to flobing wise up, lol. If you say before the game "Hyly is here, so i won't play", then its flobing stupid, but its your own choice. If you cross you fingers and just wish really, really hard that they don't pick you on Hylys team, and then ragequit when they do, you are a colossal idiot. Edited April 23, 2015 by Soedenone SayMyName 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symptom Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Ok then, ban him from inhouses. He can ban all of you for days and days, but if he's not able to inh, that'll be useless. Leaving the game? Who took a shap in yaldi's cornflakes? He's probably pissed because either rq, or he is mad because of something out of the game and bringing it into the mumble server. @Whale Too high punishment? Here's a good punishment 'Don't do it again' There. No need for ban, what if he just knew that he might not be able to play because someone told him that he needs to go in 30 mins? Rq ingame or in the lobby? And how hard is it to find a sub if there are literally 5 people looking for inhouses at the same time? Once again, mods don't have power over everything. Make a teamspeak server. Join a different mumble server. Hide under a proxy. Watevs. If he bans you for a useless reason (I think) like here, just do the things i mentioned above. Regarding the subject, if I got this all wrong and nafel did have the time just didn't want to play (which is nothing for a 24 hr ban anyways, Ban him from specing the inh) disregard the stuff I said above. Plz dont abuse your powers that you're lucky u got. DERP: Yaldi i read ur post. GG no RE. Disregarded. DERP 2: You should've just banned him from speccing the game. Don't get pissed so fast plz. he wasnt even in the lobby. i estimate he did that whos order. and yes i can easily unban myself with some easy tricks. thats not the point. the point is giving power to this kind of person who use his power for his ego but not to maintain order and soed i already told like a weak ago.like i said thats not a rq. i just let the sub play instead of me. if that would ruin a game or steal someones time i would keep play Edited April 23, 2015 by Symptom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydie Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Cliff notes: So from what I've just read from both Nafel and Yaldi (and talking to other people) is that Nafel said many weeks ago he would not play with player X, due to personal reasons (fair enough). It turned out after a quick 2 minute draft Nafel was drafted on X's team. Nafel having previously told the captains he would not play with X decided to vacate his spot another player, who was in the lobby, at peak time EU. Yaldi proceded to ban Nafel, without witnessing the incident or being logged into Starcraft. The IH happend with a minor 30 second delay. Player X went 0-11 in said IH. Later on Adam altered Nafels ban, feeling it was grossly dissproportionate. Edited April 23, 2015 by Skydie Darkr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 he wasnt even in the lobby. i estimate he did that whos order. and yes i can easily unban myself with some easy tricks. thats not the point. the point is giving power to this kind of person who use his power for his ego but not to maintain order and soed i already told like a weak ago.like i said thats not a rq. i just let the sub play instead of me. if that would ruin a game or steal someones time i would keep play Yeah I agree. It's not that he shouldn't be mod, but he needs to chill rly. I wouldn't care if someone left my lobby. I;d just get a sub and let the fella spec. But if he gets pissed so easily, then its just so tempting to piss him off (lol).And how many accounts do you think I have? 3? 4? I'll give you a hint. So many that I forgot the pw for most of them... Skydie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydie Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I would make a guide on how to 'solve' Nazi Mumble bans but I have a feeling it would be removed by people with conflicting interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosaji Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Nazi-Mod Yaldezee... Glad to know that someone has stepped up to the plate. We should probably throw him, bound and gagged, into a river. We'll know for sure then. martY and Yaldi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPlayer Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 he wasnt even in the lobby. i estimate he did that whos order. and yes i can easily unban myself with some easy tricks. thats not the point. the point is giving power to this kind of person who use his power for his ego but not to maintain order and soed i already told like a weak ago.like i said thats not a rq. i just let the sub play instead of me. if that would ruin a game or steal someones time i would keep play But if you left BEFORE the draft, it wouldn't be a "ragequit". The fact that the ONLY reason you left was that you were picked in the same team as Hyly means it IS a flobing ragequit. I already told you I think its stupid you don't play with certain people, but that it's ok. I say you only hurting yourself anyway. Leaving mid-draft cause of the team you are on, that is flobing bullshap man, and you know it. ginosaji and SayMyName 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symptom Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 But if you left BEFORE the draft, it wouldn't be a "ragequit". The fact that the ONLY reason you left was that you were picked in the same team as Hyly means it IS a flobing ragequit. I already told you I think its stupid you don't play with certain people, but that it's ok. I say you only hurting yourself anyway. Leaving mid-draft cause of the team you are on, that is flobing bullshap man, and you know it. its my choice. as long as i didnt ruin anything or block someones rights or stole someones time, who cares what is its name??? call it rq, bm, trash move or what ever. i did it without take someones time or ruin anything. and i am trying to explain this to a guy who ruin atleast 1 game with his lag everysingle day. and i saw much worst rqs in the middle of game and more. have u ever seen any ban or someshap??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPlayer Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 its my choice. as long as i didnt ruin anything or block someones rights or stole someones time, who cares what is its name??? call it rq, bm, trash move or what ever. i did it without take someones time or ruin anything. and i am trying to explain this to a guy who ruin atleast 1 game with his lag everysingle day. and i saw much worst rqs in the middle of game and more. have u ever seen any ban or someshap??? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martY Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Sooo you showed up to IH, picked teams and then proceeded to make 9 people wait for a sub specifically because you have a personal problem with one of your teammates. And to top it off, you want to spec the game that you're voluntarily sitting out. ...and Yaldi is the dick here. Got it. its my choice. Yep, and it's his choice to not want to deal with your behavior. "Harsh" punishment aside, it sounds like you were being really selfish. But hey, like you said, that's your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Symptom Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Sooo you showed up to IH, picked teams and then proceeded to make 9 people wait for a sub specifically because you have a personal problem with one of your teammates. And to top it off, you want to spec the game that you're voluntarily sitting out. ...and Yaldi is the dick here. Got it. Yep, and it's his choice to not want to deal with your behavior. "Harsh" punishment aside, it sounds like you were being really selfish. But hey, like you said, that's your choice. who said anybody wait even for a sec??? is it my bad english or you are just trying to dodge for support someone??? Edited April 23, 2015 by Symptom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martY Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) You're completely missing the principle. Even if there was no wait, you don't think you were being selfish in any way, shape or form? Just play the game dude, you're not always going to have the best mates. Edited April 23, 2015 by martY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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