What's OP?

[John]

Alright guys serious topic, I'm gonna learn a new hero ( possibly a few) , obviously I'm not going to bother learning a boring shap hero which requires no skill.

 

I'm looking for possibly a solo laner, or a good kill lane hero. The hero should preferably have a good attack animation (preferably instant) and be ranged. In other words something that has a farm priority, unless of course the hero is just a fun hero to play.

 

If you have good (OP) and preferably fun hero in mind please post it below, thanks!

 

 

Edit:

 

 

Current hero pool?

Tosh, Rory, Vorpal, Vergil, Erekul, Grunty, Boros, Nova, Summers, Dustin, Probably missed something, Might have missed a few, but in general old and unchanged heroes.

Edited March 11, 2015 by John

[Yaldi]

Current hero pool?

[Darkr]

Penthos

Katarina

etc

[ZERATUL]

Penthos

Katarina

etc

Good example of doing completely opposite of what john asked for.

 

Idk john all new heroes don't have insta AA as I know, you should try greelus, gara(so much possible builds also after his aa scales on wepon speed), raynor, darpa, drake, cypres. I'm missing something for sure i'll edit if I remember; these are funny heroes for me atleast.

Edited March 11, 2015 by ZERATUL

[taznkid]

I'm going to have to agree with Darpa for the following reasons:

 

1. As a agility carry, Darpa can carry a game (hard)

2. In lane, Darpa's Tracking Spider (Q) combined with Cyanide Clip (W) and another auto-attack or two serve as some serious lane harassment, allowing Darpa to dominate most lane match-ups

3. Darpa is one of the heroes in the game with a smoother attack animation

 

Cain also falls under similar characteristics:

 

1. As a Strength Bruiser, Cain is capable of carrying games (not as hard though)

2. In lane, Cain's Nitrogen Round (Heroic Passive), Freeze ability (Q), and Barrage (E) serve as some serious lane harassment (frankly not as good as Darpa's though)

3. Unfortunately, his attack animation is not nearly as smooth as Darpa's but last hitting generally shouldn't be a problem after 1 game or so

[Yaldi]

Maar, cow, greelus, null.

 

All relatively highish skill cap plus all are strong

[Maxwell]

Raynor, old gara(blame whale)

[Johannes]

Or if you feel like having a decent win ratio you should play shadow since I a perennial caster player have somewhere around a 10% win ratio primarily due to combinations of carries two shoting me and lag freezing my game during teamfights. My advice is to stay away from any int damage caster since they suck, Unix has lots of cc but with how buggy his ult is and how little physical resist he has you need to get very lucky or go up against noobs in order to do well.

 

Autocorrect is really getting on my nerves

Edited March 11, 2015 by Johannes

[SCV]

Lurker is rlly fun. There is so many ways u can build him.

[Doom]

Alright guys serious topic, I'm gonna learn a new hero ( possibly a few) , obviously I'm not going to bother learning a boring shap hero which requires no skill.

 

I'm looking for possibly a solo laner, or a good kill lane hero. The hero should preferably have a good attack animation (preferably instant) and be ranged. In other words something that has a farm priority, unless of course the hero is just a fun hero to play.

 

 

Try Warfield. He's the Vayne of AoS, arguable the highest skillcap hero. Although his damage is so OP that you don't really need to micro and kite properly, which makes him one of the simplest heroes to do well with........

[Spooky]

Warfield, Greelus, Kuradel. Kuradel maybe doesn't have the best AA animation, but has high weapon damage because of his passive. Probably Warfield will suit u the best.

[AlexAverskiy]

Alright guys serious topic, I'm gonna learn a new hero ( possibly a few) , obviously I'm not going to bother learning a boring shap hero which requires no skill.

 

I'm looking for possibly a solo laner, or a good kill lane hero. The hero should preferably have a good attack animation (preferably instant) and be ranged. In other words something that has a farm priority, unless of course the hero is just a fun hero to play.

 

If you have good (OP) and preferably fun hero in mind please post it below, thanks!

 

 

Edit:

 

 

 

Tosh, Rory, Vorpal, Vergil, Erekul, Grunty, Boros, Nova, Summers, Dustin, Probably missed something, Might have missed a few, but in general old and unchanged heroes.

 

If u need realy op funny hero in lane, who can do all, so this's Boros and Cow or Micro, or new Anthrax, new Anthrax is very funny bc he have +20% ulty, so u go on int, and if u in mid lane, u can ez help your team on top or bot with your fast ulty

Micro is very funny in any lane when your tower is close 2 u ;) If u need fast rape towers, Summers is perfect in this, many players use only rifle, its bad, bc granades much better, so Summers with weapon speed and some int = RIP all 2 - 3 towers at 8 -10 min of the game

Edited March 12, 2015 by AlexAverskiy

[LucKiesT]

John! Why dont you do it the luckiest way, go random every pub game! :D

[taznkid]

I am going to attempt to analyze every single suggested hero since my post according to your standards:

 

1. Maar

Requires a degree of skill to play. The hero is all about landing Meteor (3 W) and having a innate sense of the Cooldown on his various abilities. Nevertheless, a good Maar player in the current meta is extremely difficult to deal with.

 

Does not have the best attack animation, but not necessarily the worst. Acceptable animation and base weapon damage for last hitting.

 

2. Cow

This burst caster is a pretty damn annoying lane harasser, as well as being borderline overpowered throughout the game. His Heroic Passive/Active allows for annoying pokes in the early game, and his walls are relatively easy to land provided you keep an eye on your charges.

 

Decent last hitting animation.

 

3. Greelus

Frankly, I believe this hero is a hidden OP. Currently, you can just Q your enemy, shout YOLO, activate W, charge at them while auto-attacking, and own. Heroic Active provides decent mobility, and his Q ability allows you to deal some serious damage.

 

Decent last hitting animation.

 

4. Null

As arguably the best CC hero, Null.Disruptor is quite deadly in lane. Arcane Sword (E) can zone out your opponent from farming easily, and a opponent that decides to take the plunge against you can quickly find himself talking alot of damage from a combo of Magic Missile (Q), Forcefield walls (W), and auto-attacks. In my personal opinion, he is also one of the easiest heroes on which to use Powerstrike uniques, due to the Stun-Proc combo of Magic Missile.

 

If needed, Null can also have DPS built on him quite effectively (please use C4 Gauss Cannon, Cerebros, and maybe Coat of Arms, not Pyre like so many stupid people get on Casters that don't deal Armor Penetration or sacrifice Spell Damage for it)

 

Very good at last hitting due to relatively high base damage and decent attack animation.

 

5. Raynor

Due to the long range of his abilities, auto-attack, and the damn-it-to-hell-wtf overpowered Marauders, Raynor is quite the lane bully. Throughout the game, however, he makes for easy kills due to his low base armor if he is out of position. A good Raynor player considers caster mobility items (such as Warp Shard, Impact Dial, Yamato Reactor) as needed, or positions himself accordingly. Smoke Bomb synergizes extremely well with Raynor's Marked For Death (Q).

 

Very good at last hitting.

 

6. Garamond

Since the various changes to Garamond's abilities and Schrodinger's Lockbox (becoming alot more expensive), he is not as popular as before, but is still a powerful pusher in lane, particularly by abusing the grass by placing towers within them.

 

Considering it's the SCVs that he spawns doing the attacking, last hitting maybe be a bit difficult on Garamond.

 

7. Unix

First, don't listen to what the guy that posted said. Unix can be extremely powerful, but as a support hero, he relies on good teammates to an extent. In lane, the Infested Terrans that he spawns are extremely good at harrassing while last hitting for you.

Throughout the game, you will assist your team by locking down targets so that your team can take them down. Or, you can sneak up on someone, spawn some Infested, Fungal, Ult, attack, and pwn.

 

Attack animation is acceptable.

 

8. Feral. Terminus (Lurker)

Another hidden OP, albeit requires some degree of skill and knowledge of build/build orders.

 

His Auto-Attack allows you to destroy creep waves, and with the recent buff to burrow/unburrow times, the vulnerability of your immobility is not as bad as before (and he was still OP before then).

 

His stun ability does a surprisingly large amount of damage, and once you get some Timescale items rolling, his R is extremely annoying, particularly once you throw in Spell Leech.

 

9. Kuradel

His various passives allows you to dish out some heavy Spell Damage, and his abilities are easier to land then one might expect, and the sheer spam potential of his Q ability allows for severe lane harass. Powerstrike abilities work quite well on Kuradel, much like Null.

 

His AoE disable Ultimate can be a team fight changer.

 

Acceptable last hitting ability.

 

10. Warfield

In my personal opinion, the best ranged agility carry after Darpa. His Strafe (E) provides decent mobility, while the damage AMP/Armor Penetration from Q and R are stupidly powerful. The slow from Molten Shot (Round?) (W) is pretty severe, although the animation can sometimes make it a bit strange on exactly where the ability is landing.

 

His squishiness can make solo laning diffcult, although the utility of his abilities can easily change that. Laning with someone allows Warfield to dish out some serious Auto-Attack harass.

 

Good last hitting ability.

 

11. Micro

Arguably the best initiator in the game now that Brine's Impale (E) is a skill shot. His W has quite the range, allowing you to throw your enemies in lane into the tower for some kills, or toward a laning partner if you have one. His Heroic Passive (Fast Twitch) makes him a decent Auto-Attacker during the early game.

 

Decent last hitting ability, Melee hero.

 

12. Boros and Summers

You already said that you play those, so I have no idea why AlexAverskiy is suggesting those.

 

13. Anthrax

Frankly, I would not suggest this hero. Despite the numerous buffs this hero has received, his abilities (with the exception of his ultimate) are all relatively sub-par. His W is ridiculously easy to dodge and only useful for escaping in certain scenarios, Q's initial damage is sub-par while the final damage is easy to avoid, and his E wont save you from spells and around mid game time will buy you perhaps around 2 seconds of time against a DPS.

 

His Heroic Passive allows his auto-attacks to dish out decent damage.

 

Acceptable last hitting ability.

[Johannes]

Anthrax is really weak he has one non ulti nuke that is super mana intensive and only does decent damage vs brain dead people, his ulti is really hard to land at anything more then 20ish range and does underwhelming damage the damage amp might be nice but anthrax is definitely not a pub hero.

[Johannes]

The reason why I don't recommend Unix is because of how squishy he is he has as much armor at lvl 11 as a typical hero has at lvl 1 this makes him similar to Tass as they both have one very low resist, with tass it's his 15% spell resist with Unix it's his 9.6% physical resist at lvl 1 and 1.2k hp at lvl 18

 

Edit: as a note about what he said is possible with unix's ulti, it's not there is too much of a delay and even with ancient rune and fungal you can only do around half of a squishies hp, and once you get one kill on them they learn and never stick around when they are low enough for you to effectively solo kill him, Unix is the ultimate kill securer, the problem is the way many other disables interact with his ulti, for instance micro toss cancels it.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Johannes

[OPReN]

AeReN is OP i heard

[John]

I'll prob test Warfield, Greelus and raynor :) Thanks for the feedback guys.

[Diipadaapa]

tassadar........................

[CrazySoldier]

Alright guys serious topic, I'm gonna learn a new hero ( possibly a few) , obviously I'm not going to bother learning a boring shap hero which requires no skill.

 

I'm looking for possibly a solo laner, or a good kill lane hero. The hero should preferably have a good attack animation (preferably instant) and be ranged. In other words something that has a farm priority, unless of course the hero is just a fun hero to play.

 

If you have good (OP) and preferably fun hero in mind please post it below, thanks!

 

 

Edit:

 

 

 

Tosh, Rory, Vorpal, Vergil, Erekul, Grunty, Boros, Nova, Summers, Dustin, Probably missed something, Might have missed a few, but in general old and unchanged heroes.

I think you meant to just say Rory.

[taznkid]

The reason why I don't recommend Unix is because of how squishy he is he has as much armor at lvl 11 as a typical hero has at lvl 1 this makes him similar to Tass as they both have one very low resist, with tass it's his 15% spell resist with Unix it's his 9.6% physical resist at lvl 1 and 1.2k hp at lvl 18

 

Edit: as a note about what he said is possible with unix's ulti, it's not there is too much of a delay and even with ancient rune and fungal you can only do around half of a squishies hp, and once you get one kill on them they learn and never stick around when they are low enough for you to effectively solo kill him, Unix is the ultimate kill securer, the problem is the way many other disables interact with his ulti, for instance micro toss cancels it.

You know there is something called defensive talents. Works pretty well.

 

Furthermore, Unix is a support hero. You know what type of items support heroes get? Support Aura items, sight items, disablers, etc.

 

You know what sort of stats those items have?

 

Armor, Spell Armor, Health, and Regen.

 

You can't expect to build a hero incorrectly and do well (unless you are OPren I suppose)

 

Furthermore, I have absolutely no idea why you are using Ancient Rune against squishies. That's one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Ancient Rune not only does damage only based on Current HP, if you are getting it against squishies, you probably wont even get that double damage benefit.

 

Generally, the popular INT item choice when attempting to do a "Assassin" Unix are items like Argus Crystal, Gravity Edge, and Yamato Reactor (Sunflare Gun was also a popular choice, but probably not anymore since the damage is constant and no longer scales).

 

In terms of his sheer ability to keep a hero in one place, Unix is unmatched, considering that 3 out of his 4 Active abilities can be used for the purpose.

 

I do agree his Ult is a bit weak, but I've played a few In-Houses where a good Unix won us the game.

 

Also, what the heck do you expect from Unix in terms of Physical Resist. Resistance like a Agility Hero? That would just be stupid. There's this really nice new item that was released called Khalis Relic. It provides as much Armor as Darksteel Titan, and it's Active provides a ton of Shields based on your Current Energy. Try using it.

[GreenSkittles]

You know there is something called defensive talents. Works pretty well.

 

Furthermore, Unix is a support hero. You know what type of items support heroes get? Support Aura items, sight items, disablers, etc.

 

You know what sort of stats those items have?

 

Armor, Spell Armor, Health, and Regen.

 

You can't expect to build a hero incorrectly and do well (unless you are OPren I suppose)

 

Furthermore, I have absolutely no idea why you are using Ancient Rune against squishies. That's one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Ancient Rune not only does damage only based on Current HP, if you are getting it against squishies, you probably wont even get that double damage benefit.

 

Generally, the popular INT item choice when attempting to do a "Assassin" Unix are items like Argus Crystal, Gravity Edge, and Yamato Reactor (Sunflare Gun was also a popular choice, but probably not anymore since the damage is constant and no longer scales).

 

In terms of his sheer ability to keep a hero in one place, Unix is unmatched, considering that 3 out of his 4 Active abilities can be used for the purpose.

 

I do agree his Ult is a bit weak, but I've played a few In-Houses where a good Unix won us the game.

 

Also, what the heck do you expect from Unix in terms of Physical Resist. Resistance like a Agility Hero? That would just be stupid. There's this really nice new item that was released called Khalis Relic. It provides as much Armor as Darksteel Titan, and it's Active provides a ton of Shields based on your Current Energy. Try using it.

support unix is only for noobs if u go spell dmg you are more usefull unless you're retarded

[Johannes]

I buy ancient on Unix since every tick of his DoT spells apply an instance of the unique massively increasing unix's damage, support Unix can't do anything since his ulti is super bugged and in pubs they always give Unix a solo lane for some reason. And a hero should not need to buy huge numbers of armor items in order to have as much armor as your typical lvl 1

 

What I expect in terms of armor is as much as your run of the mill caster not half as much.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Johannes

[John]

support unix is only for noobs if u go spell dmg you are more usefull unless you're retarded

I dunno if you are being sarcastic or just have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Let's say that you aren't sarcastic, apart from ur fungal doing a bit more damage, what do you plan on contributing with in a teamfight?

[Yaldi]

Unix is best jungler in the game!