Johannes Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Zera is absurdly broken he can win most 1v1 or even 1v2's and his ulti makes him almost unkillable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkterror Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Taser him with 50%hp and smile :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCV Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Zera is fine people just need to learn how to counter him effectively. Taser, stuns, wards, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I heard debuff immunity is pretty good against him. He's supposed to be able to win 1v1 that's why he falls of later in team fights where he can initiate with planar but can't jump in immediately to avoid getting blown up. If he is tanky then his damage is negligible compared to carries later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Taser got nerfed and how does being able to survive being focused by the entire enemy team and deal huge damage indicate falling off? Zera never has a negligible damage output even if you are three levels behind and only have atom smasher you still deal damage, you just don't survive long enough to kill them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 zera with parrlax is almost auto win almost as broken as darpa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Oh I see it happen all the time in inhouses where Zera does well early game and as the game progresses he falls off compared to carries that can sustain or pummel from a range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Well look at that! The problem is now clear What should I do, apart from open a bottle of beer? Will the planar hunt me down? Or will the Zera have a frown? Lets go back in time! Good god! I hate wine! Make 'em bleed for the troll All enemies will fall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taznkid Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Oh I see it happen all the time in inhouses where Zera does well early game and as the game progresses he falls off compared to carries that can sustain or pummel from a range. Try: Timesplitter Sliptide Scythe Force of Entropy Everthirst Explosive Retrofit "Situational" Depending on the last item, you have around 60% physical resist, around 45% spell resist (if you get the talent like I do), and around 3.5-4k health. You don't need Armor Penetration on him imo, since his passive already deals True Damage. The way I see Zeratul is this: Outlast your opponent. As the fight prolongs, your passive does more and more damage. Heck, you can just run in, put in 6 strikes, get out, and take out a huge chunk. I disagree that he falls off late game as such. It's like saying Penthos falls off late game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'm not saying that he sucks late game. But I don't think he is a late game carry because later in the game, other carries outshine him. So I say he falls off later in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 So your saying that he's not as op as nova who can two shot casters by mid game, this is the problem with AOS, caster who considered balanced in RoA had around twice as much scaling and maximum achievable aa damage was only around 2/3rds of AOS and max aa speed aroun 50% lower and people still complained about some carries being op, what does that tell you about carries in AOS in comparison to casters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 So your saying that he's not as op as nova who can two shot casters by mid game, this is the problem with AOS, caster who considered balanced in RoA had around twice as much scaling and maximum achievable aa damage was only around 2/3rds of AOS and max aa speed aroun 50% lower and people still complained about some carries being op, what does that tell you about carries in AOS in comparison to casters? Caster carried in RoA... Why are you comparing two different game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Why, because they are the same genre and had similar hp totals and resistances, which means you can compare damage outputs and based on the more balanced of the two make decisions about balance in the other game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 as much as I hated his bubble, that might have been less broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneInSkyNa Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 bubble was way way way more broken it's almost as broken as yig's ult. zera is balanced not op not up depends on who plays zera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 NECROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) If you were on the new forums, you'd already be banned. derp. Edited May 27, 2015 by Darkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauzboi Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 or you know u could hit him with a sword breaker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroggyKilla Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) or you know u could hit him with a sword breaker.... That half-item? Thank god Whale made it a component of something. Too bad that DPS gets another buff. Edited June 16, 2015 by FroggyKilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taznkid Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Moar necrooooo Edited June 16, 2015 by taznkid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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