OPReN Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^ read title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCV Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Shhhhhhhhhhhh don't say anything before it gets nerf'd. Pretty sure Whale is nerfing it in beta already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 125% scaling is just too much.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCV Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Hmmm isnt that similar to bhm? Edited January 31, 2015 by SCV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taznkid Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Hmmm isnt that similar to bhm? I believe Black Hole Magnum is 110% scaling I could be wrong though. Also, Star's Fury has the below over Black Hole Magnum: Energy Burn: Absolutely wrecks tanks. I remember countless times about to use Ultimate as Drake and I got Energy Burned by Star's. Scaling: Black Hole Magnum scales from Weapon Damage, while Star's Fury scales from Intelligence. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's much easier to get higher Intelligence than Weapon Damage in a proper build. Why? Generally, you're going to have to build Weapon Speed as well as Weapon Damage, while Intelligence is easily gotten by itself. Synergy: Star's Fury has Gravity Edge and Argus Crystal to amp its damage. Now, I can't remember, but if Black Hole Magnum still deals Spell Damage, then there is a limit to how much damage you can do due to Armor/Spell Armor, since no one is going to get Gravity Edge on a hero that generally gets Black Hole Magnum. If Black Hole Magnum deals Physical Damage: it has maybe Contamination Shard, which cannot compare to Argus Crystal in terms of amping damage, and C4 Gauss Cannon/Xenomorphic Cleaver for True Damage, both of which you need to get to match Gravity Edge in terms of Armor Penetration (and of course, most people generally do not get both). Furthermore, Contamination Shard will not provide the Weapon Damage to increase Black Hole Magnum's damage unless it is on a Strength Hero, and C4 Gauss Cannon does not give any Weapon Damage whatsoever, while Gravity Edge and Argus both provide Intelligence for Star's Fury. Last but not least, Star's Fury works similarly to Cerebros, allowing even more damage from a single procc'ed auto attack, while Black Hole Magnum has.....I don't know about you guys, but I can't think of anything. Viability: Of the heroes that can fully utilize Black Hole Magnum, how many are ranged? Off the top of my head, I can only think of Vorpal, Savage, Warfield, Tychus, Kerrigan, Cain, and Darpa, and most of those you would not get Black Hole Magnum on them because there are better choices. Now how many heroes can fully utilize Star's Fury? Basically every intelligence scaling caster in the game; also, nearly every caster in the game is a ranged hero. Is that good enough comparison between Black Hole Magnum and Star's Fury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Hmmm isnt that similar to bhm? the difference between bhm and stars fury is you can spam your auto attack like every 0.42 sec by 100% scaling so bhm is useless(110% every 5 seconds) you rather get more wp damage but there's no hero that can spam 125% int every 0.42 second and they shouldnt tbh i think stars fury should be removed or least nerf it's scaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 the difference between bhm and stars fury is you can spam your auto attack like every 0.42 sec by 100% scaling so bhm is useless(110% every 5 seconds) you rather get more wp damage but there's no hero that can spam 125% int every 0.42 second and they shouldnt tbh i think stars fury should be removed or least nerf it's scaling But that's as spell damage. It's an interesting burst alternative to armor pen or sliptide. It makes dps heroes assassin-capable. Particularily strong on ranged, since you can trade one shot pokes without a follow up second shot. Yes, if you are shadow or something it's not that great, but if enemy has death mask or cauterizers and you can't rely on leech to fight for a long time it's kinda of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 But that's as spell damage. It's an interesting burst alternative to armor pen or sliptide. It makes dps heroes assassin-capable. Particularily strong on ranged, since you can trade one shot pokes without a follow up second shot. Yes, if you are shadow or something it's not that great, but if enemy has death mask or cauterizers and you can't rely on leech to fight for a long time it's kinda of good. it just got nerfed just enuf :O k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 it just got nerfed just enuf :O k U mean nerfed to be useless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 U mean nerfed to be useless? how is it useless? it deals even more damage in beginning also at 400 int 500 damage -> 400 damage not that hard nerf tho.. just a bit nerf to late game scaling i would still use this item because it's still really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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