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Nerf shade for good already


ZERATUL
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Ok first of all I have no idea where are ppl from inhouse getting idea that maar is more op then shadow, if its only cuz his healing aura that he uses mostly only after fight then gg.

We all know that shadow is op and saw it many many times, he was changed a lot of times also, nerfed buffed etc..Altho all of those changes were preaty much useless.I dont know how people dont see that biggest thing that makes him OP is VORTEX. Probobly one of the best initiation skills and can be comboed with so much shap..I can remember 1 game from tourny where 1 team was losing hard early game and then shade just started using vortex on multiple ppl and it went in gara combo and some other heroes, cant rly remember.. Of course im not saying his ult isnt OP, but biggest reason it is, is because vortex. I mean vortex-crazy hero combos-shade ult, u basicly cant lose teamfight. Also to mention hes clearing jungle rly easy, and about his splitpushing ability I wont even talk.

 

So my suggestion is to completely rework vortex ability.

 

Thoughts?

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Vortex got nerfed. People raged about it and no one used him. Now vortex op again out of the blue? GG

Vortex = Lockbox. I just played a IH today, where I went 17-5 godlike with Shadow without even trying. Just Shinobi Style active, run in, kill stuff, gg.

 

Also had fun Vortexing people, since our Boros would then bola them after I vortex lol

 

Much fun.

 

Overall, his skills are all extremely powerful. Q has pretty powerful damage and is a short blink, Vortex = Lockbox, a Level 4 Stepping Strikes provides almost as much Movement Speed in terms of percentage as Phantom Menace, and Ultimate has a variety of uses.

 

But yes, I agree that Vortex is flobbing stupidly good. I think the skill itself should be changed into something else entirely; the fact that it essentially works like Lockbox that also buffs/debuffs in terms of speed afterwards is just too good.

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Vortex got nerfed. People raged about it and no one used him. Now vortex op again out of the blue? GG

 

Pretty sure it received a ninja buff with its nerf. The nerf was the casting delay, the buff was the move speed buff/debuff duration got increased.

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Maar way stronger, and I like vortex as an ability. If you want to change it for shadow to something else, you better release a new hero (perhaps more of a support than adc) that has vortex in the same patch. That said, the amount of utility the skill has may be just too much for shadow. Adding or removing a little range, cast time, duration, etc is not really going to change that. Make w a no-cast time, and remove the lockbox effect. Nerf the percentage to something like 8/12/16/20 % and make the duration last 2/4/6/8 seconds. Increase range a little. This way, shadow can slow/speedup a good 3-5 heroes for a long time, if not a large amount.

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It could pull to the center but not remove from the game. Just suck in and slow

 

That presents problems as well, means you don't even have to time skill shots correctly on them like you do for lockbox.

 

Granted they can still use abilities or impact out.

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That presents problems as well, means you don't even have to time skill shots correctly on them like you do for lockbox.

 

Granted they can still use abilities or impact out.

It can deduce their movement speed and silence them.

Ez. Also, nerf ulti's area radius...

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Main problem I see with Shadow is that he can do the jungle without any kind of problem and risk, get items really fast and start wreking people. And I don't mean farming for 40 minutes to start getting kills, Shadow is fast and wont let you scape with his vortex, so ganking with him is very easy. I am not totally sure about how is he handled on IH games though, people say, don't complain about how OP a hero is because he's strong in pubs against retards, but when I go see an IH he's autobanned so...

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Main problem I see with Shadow is that he can do the jungle without any kind of problem and risk, get items really fast and start wreking people. And I don't mean farming for 40 minutes to start getting kills, Shadow is fast and wont let you scape with his vortex, so ganking with him is very easy. I am not totally sure about how is he handled on IH games though, people say, don't complain about how OP a hero is because he's strong in pubs against retards, but when I go see an IH he's autobanned so...

He can take 3/4 jungles solo with just x2 fusion x1 hunters, heal and pots...

This really should be nerfed.

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Today we played one game where shade wasnt auto and that vortex nerf was rly felt.Im happy whale listened to some eu ppl and nerfed vortex its righr path of balancing shadow. Btw is shadow scannable in his ult, if not just make it possible and he should be in decent spot, mb nerf his base dmg or some shap

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Noooo.... Shadow is up when his vortex isnt reliable for catching people and when people dont have lag issue or delays yeah hes good vs those people but he is alot more easier to escape now

UP? He can take 3 people without losing health with his R+Explosive+Pyre+Shinobi.
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