zazzn Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Zera is a reking machine. The ability to do multi target and his CD's super low make him pretty damn strong. Especially vs any other aa. Just watched him go 27x5 and he wasn't even a good player. Lisbon Edited December 31, 2014 by zazzn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francuz Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Indeed zera is very strong now but almost inclusively in 1v1. He no longer has super aoe disable stun silence root and therfore he is counterable by teamplay. You know what is really overpowered this game? Good teamplay with mumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 i think planars pretty broken if you can use it well other skills fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 lol were autoing zera right now gg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazzn Posted December 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 3 issues, the ability to move around, CD on skills, and finally the ability to farm due to AOE phase strike. Â He can simply farm too quickly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 I agree on changing the CDs in his abilities. His Q cd is being nerfed in beta I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Indeed zera is very strong now but almost inclusively in 1v1. He no longer has super aoe disable stun silence root and therfore he is counterable by teamplay. You know what is really overpowered this game? Good teamplay with mumble. Â You're right now he has insta cloaking and insane mobility. Any hero can be "countered" by teamplay... That isn't an actual counter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) You're right now he has insta cloaking and insane mobility. Any hero can be "countered" by teamplay... That isn't an actual counter though. I think you should change it to something like:"Zeratul cloaks himself when he is nearby an enemy hero for 6 seconds. Taking, dealing damage or using abilities disables this effect for a short time. This has a 2 second internal cooldown." This would let him escape in a tricky situation, but not stalk around a enemy, engaging them when they're where he wants them to be. It would bring a lot of balance to zeratul, so he's not permenently cloaked whenever he is near an enemy, which makes him untargetable. I think his Q should be back to target unit, so that he only has 2 abilities changing his position. Thoughts? Edited December 31, 2014 by Darkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 no way darkr GhostDragon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I think you should change it to something like: "Zeratul cloaks himself when he is nearby an enemy hero for 6 seconds. Taking, dealing damage or using abilities disables this effect for a short time. This has a 2 second internal cooldown." This would let him escape in a tricky situation, but not stalk around a enemy, engaging them when they're where he wants them to be. It would bring a lot of balance to zeratul, so he's not permenently cloaked whenever he is near an enemy, which makes him untargetable. I think his Q should be back to target unit, so that he only has 2 abilities changing his position. Thoughts? Â I personally didnt agree with the Zeratul rework. I don't think either Zeratul design was/is healthy for the game. What I meant about the cloak is that even if you're attacking him he can just cloak away, which is beyond retarded. He shouldn't be able to cloak in combat. I personally think he should be an assassin, so I would agree with a targeted Q again for a reliable gap closer/ less mobility. If that were to happen i'd like to see his W changed into being a slightly more bursty skill instead of an execute or at least his ultimate. Whale likes planar void to much to get rid of that ability. So I think his Q needs a slight change and either his W or R need a rework. Edited January 1, 2015 by Revolution zazzn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDragon Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) zera even stronger than before now... Â buy wards... Â Dont rework him again... zera is nice as he is. Edited January 1, 2015 by GhostDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 zera even stronger than before now... Â buy wards... Â Dont rework him again... zera is nice as he is. says the guy with zera as his avatar OPReN and Darkr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydie Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Adversary you still play this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Adversary you still play this game? not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDragon Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Making zera weaker does not make sense at all. Same story just a diffrent day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDragon Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Counter---freakin Shadow how about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Zera has always been strong. There just not enough of good zera player in EU server before and people are just getting a hold of his true strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) a good zera auto win final build zera can bd t3 without any creeps... does it for all t3's get suppresors and win! Edited January 1, 2015 by GreenSkittles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Full build Penthos can bd artifact without any creeps. End the game and win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 penthos best 1v1 in the world, zera best ninja, play Zera with warp shard and retribution edge and omniscience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 imo the only thing that is broken is planar.. it was all planar before the redesign but everything has redesigned except for that skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazzn Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I personally didnt agree with the Zeratul rework. I don't think either Zeratul design was/is healthy for the game. What I meant about the cloak is that even if you're attacking him he can just cloak away, which is beyond retarded. He shouldn't be able to cloak in combat. I personally think he should be an assassin, so I would agree with a targeted Q again for a reliable gap closer/ less mobility. If that were to happen i'd like to see his W changed into being a slightly more bursty skill instead of an execute or at least his ultimate. Whale likes planar void to much to get rid of that ability. So I think his Q needs a slight change and either his W or R need a rework. Â Â Agree with what you said. Should have just made another hero with the new zera's skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 we should change planner to zera spawning 2 other clones atking the enemy that also apply w anyone agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 hey thats from RoA skittles, Pride and Wrath use to work on the map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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