Hogwarts Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 What does the community think about auto bans. Some of the names tossed at my recently are Maar Medic Shadow But I dont have an extensive amount of experience in the current map. What do you guys think? Apparently Maar might be bugged / broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I hear EU is autoing pyro. Also, both MAAR and Medic got nerfed in the latest patch. Were these two suggested after this change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted December 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I think the maar issue is the healing aura. at rank 4 its 60+10% int over 15 seconds. Then you get your first major item it bumps your int to about 200. Which makes your healing 60+20 = 80 per second over 15 seconds for a total of 1200. Giving himself and allies full health after every engagement or always at full health in lane. People are maxing the e over the w. for the frost wave dmg / then the strong sustain. The Healing aura seems strong at all points of the game. EterNity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Ah so once it was actually leveling up we realized it was op? We could just nerf it instead of autobanning it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Jackson Rog Pyro Shadow GreenSkittles and EterNity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I dont see that big need to auto shadow, he can be countered hard with some comps, yes he is strong quidditch, but u want to auto him and not rog, which doesent make any sense. I wouldnt auto medic. Maar only if hes bugged, I do agree his healing aura is strong, but hes been same for some time now. So idk, there are still also jax drake that as I know are considered strongest heroes in game atm on NA, and will always get picked before heroes u wrote. So I would auto maar if hes bugged, and rog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Maar is the only one I think should be auto, do to his insane sustain with the healing aura and shields, plus his high damage output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucKiesT Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 pyro is a monster lategame ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I haven't played inhouse for a while, but: Rog - u telling me that he is still OP after recent nerf? Or u simply always keeping him banned so actually no one tested it? Shadow - there are counters, but late game hero is very strong Medic - after last nerf he seems fine Maar - no idea what is the issue - anything changed about him recently? Jackson, Pyro - haven't played with them recently, so can't say anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Yes rog is still broken as flob, and if he isnt auto, then there shouldnt be any autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Auto dustin nova wtf they most op and grunty because no shadowmourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawKeYe Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I agree: AUTOBAN Maar Medic Shadow @Spooky: I've tested with Balrog in-house, he was not OP, i say now, Balrog Role semi tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I disagree that rog is super op. And zeratul MAAR hasn't been the same way for a long time. It was only recently that his auras starting actually scaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Ok then auto maar, I do agree his auras are stupid and frost wave. I dont think medic deserves auto since her w just go nerfed and she is now nice support. Shadow as I said is rly strong late game, sometimes not tho, with specific picks, and early-mid game hes very countarable Edited December 17, 2014 by ZERATUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I also can't see Rog OP now. He still has his burst and capabilities to one-shot squishies with rushed Atom and so on, but besides that his new passive makes him not very strong late game. In addition there is no Shadowmourne anymore - item which was making him viable as carry late game. HawKeYe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I think rog is still strong and will be a high pick/ban, but I don't think hes broke after the latest round of nerfs, and now that hes actually making it through the bans, people are actually figuring out counters to him. Edited December 17, 2014 by Destroyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSkittles Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 k guys BlueSkittles: omg omg i landed 5 team molotov Destroyer: laughs as he comes in and w's his whole team Blueskittles: balrog is so broken what a !@#$en stupid hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Balrogs team debuff removal is pretty op. It would be a nice skill on a support hero, but on a bruiser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPlayer Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 To just mention, for legitimacy reasons: Iljahi is a nice a generally clever guy, like Spooky, but also primarily plays Balrog, like Spooky. So as with Spooky, maybe take his ideas on that hero and throw them out the window because they will never be non-biased. HawKeYe and ZERATUL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 k guys BlueSkittles: omg omg i landed 5 team molotov Destroyer: laughs as he comes in and w's his whole team Blueskittles: balrog is so broken what a !@#$en stupid hero. WOW, says the guy who tells me to balrog and doesn't pick me what I want. GreenSkittles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 To just mention, for legitimacy reasons: Iljahi is a nice a generally clever guy, like Spooky, but also primarily plays Balrog, like Spooky. So as with Spooky, maybe take his ideas on that hero and throw them out the window because they will never be non-biased. I do play many other heroes, I guess I can't participate in balance debate about them as well... nice logic behind your statement. Bring some valid argument next time pls illu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revision Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Mars auras didn't used to scale at all w/ level whale probably fixed and 4got to put in changelogs. Hogwarts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted December 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 This is prob why it feels OP all of a sudden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPlayer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I do play many other heroes, I guess I can't participate in balance debate about them as well... nice logic behind your statement. Bring some valid argument next time pls Thanks. I don't think anyone who knows you will disagree. When Balrog was the most OP you were still arguing against a nerf. You were even arguing against the latest one :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Should it be treated case by case basis and agreed by both team captains. There should be no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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