Doom Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Reduce %slow based on distance from target pls. Item is fine on melee, but stupid strong on ranged..... ADCs already have stun knife to land a few extra hits, if they cannot kill you in that time, you should not be continously slowed as they aa you down across the entire map. If they want to do that, let them buy MS items. That's why there are so few supports in this game, adcs are self-sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I heard C85 Glass cannon was weak... I wonder what its active is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysi Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Hopefully stun knife will be getting changed/dropped entirely in the future... I wouldn't disagree with changing FoE's unique to a higher base(30% slow) for melee and lower(15-20% slow) for ranged. @EterNity Well what if you are a tank/support/Int and don't want to buy an AA item? lol Edited November 21, 2014 by Jaysi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 @EterNity Well what if you are a tank/support/Int and don't want to buy an AA item? lol you buy a dst instead.... oh but its only 20% so its still not enough and the carry probably has a gauss cannon so it wouldnt matter anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just use a formula similar to that of new rancor stun duration to calc the amount of % or time slowed. NoWaterJustIce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 probably just do a ranged vs melee difference on the unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidChan Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 ADC carry.. the usual nova and darp carry arent picked that much anymore in in-house, and they usually dont buy that items from what I see... Most of the heroes i see getting FOE are the STR AA, Melee, short range carries. The HP and Str are whats op in this item.. not the slow IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 ADC carry.. the usual nova and darp carry arent picked that much anymore in in-house, and they usually dont buy that items from what I see... Most of the heroes i see getting FOE are the STR AA, Melee, short range carries. The HP and Str are whats op in this item.. not the slow IMO. lol totally not true. I just showed everyone today that pyre + hard dps like nova = completely destroy tanky carries past mid game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 lol totally not true. I just showed everyone today that pyre + hard dps like nova = completely destroy tanky carries past mid game I can imagine that. Drafts feel a bit stale to me in my inhouses, people always pick and ban the same heroes, but I think that many other heroes not being picked are still good. The game where I was on whale's team and he let them have rory, Cain, lz, kerrigan, and buffed jackson, yet we still won with a shadow carrying us (I can't remember the other heroes on our team). I think people are too close-minded and don't think that other heroes besides the ones we have been picking recently in inhouses are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoWaterJustIce Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I can imagine that. Drafts feel a bit stale to me in my inhouses, people always pick and ban the same heroes, but I think that many other heroes not being picked are still good. The game where I was on whale's team and he let them have rory, Cain, lz, kerrigan, and buffed jackson, yet we still won with a shadow carrying us (I can't remember the other heroes on our team). I think people are too close-minded and don't think that other heroes besides the ones we have been picking recently in inhouses are good. I agree, right now i think that (in beta) almost every single hero is viable excluding mk and egon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeslieBenzin Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Whatever but dont copy from lol anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Whatever but dont copy from lol anymore. Changedoge v1.l0l River rune creep now renamed to scuttle crab. Must be killed to grant its buff, and becomes a free ward upon death. Additionally, grunty alone may tame the crab. Tamed crab may be ordered to attack target enemy hero, infecting it with an STD. STD debuff causes that hero randomly and periodically stop to scratch his/her crotch for a few seconds - ignoring player input for the duration. Grunty may use this ability on himself, but only if both he and the crab are hidden in a bush. O wait. LeslieBenzin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Distortion hammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidChan Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I can imagine that. Drafts feel a bit stale to me in my inhouses, people always pick and ban the same heroes, but I think that many other heroes not being picked are still good. The game where I was on whale's team and he let them have rory, Cain, lz, kerrigan, and buffed jackson, yet we still won with a shadow carrying us (I can't remember the other heroes on our team). I think people are too close-minded and don't think that other heroes besides the ones we have been picking recently in inhouses are good. Yea, but did the shadow get FOE? Shadow is pretty op at the moment.. lol totally not true. I just showed everyone today that pyre + hard dps like nova = completely destroy tanky carries past mid game Did you get FOE after pyre? the debate of this topic is FOE.. of course ADC are still good, but i just dont see many ADC like nova, darpa, or shadow get this item. Most heroes that get this item are usually bruiser type heroes, not much on true ADC char. So thats why I pointed out that FOE is op in its str and health that benefit a lot for bruiser heroes, or short range AA heroes. Just from what i see so far, but i could be wrong. I see something like cain, balrog, kerrigan, tychus, starscream?, tosh, toxi, penthos, or grunty a lot... who benefit more with FOE's tankiness and slow... Who knows? Maybe someone will try out Pyre+FOE build which are some of the oldest build for nova and darpa.. which were Pyre, Time Splitter, then FOE.., but how does that make FOE's slow OP when it is not the priority item for nova, darpa, shadow, boros, zera, etc. Anyway, i dont even know what ADC is in this game anymore haha.. Bruiser and ADC.. is there a difference? Just imagine if this item gives no hp, str, and 40 weapon dmg.. you'll see how shap of an item FOE is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeslieBenzin Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 That sounda great.By the way Whale can u add Armlet of Mordiggian in AOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 No my build was Quantum Spade + Fusion Blade -> Duran Machette + Khala Stone -> Pyre -> Shard of Ruin -> Everthirst -> Xenomorph -> C48 -> Sliptide -> Niax Claw I personally see FoE as a massive dps loss on squishy ranged AA (Nova/Darpa/Savage), and would pretty much never get it. That sounda great.By the way Whale can u add Armlet of Mordiggian in AOS? I have no intention of adding anything from another game for the sake of adding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Yea, but did the shadow get FOE? Shadow is pretty op at the moment.. I wasn't saying anything about FoE, I was getting off topic and talking about how drafts are kinda stale when there are actually a lot of viable heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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