Goggles is a prime example of why we need vote-kick

[Grantypoo]

Here is a typical game with Goggles...

 

Notice his signature he currently has? He says the same sentence in game... he chats to "All" - Good Luck To My Team. This Will Be A Test Of Your Patience And Skill. I Hope You Are VERY Good.

 

Before most people have items bought, he runs to center tower, dies immediately to the first person who comes mid and feeds first blood to opposing team. He then continues to purposefully die and just tries to annoy his own team as much as possible.

 

This kind of play really irritates me. He tries to ruin the game for the other 4 people on his team. And really, he is ruining it for all 9 people because the opposing team doesnt have a very good game either.

 

I was on the opposing team from him once, everyone on his team rage quit, then he just trolled around with Micro and played a 1v5, which he of course lost but he dragged it out as long as he could.

 

In general, a very BM player. Literally ruining the game, on purpose... who knows how many noobs left the game and never gave it a chance because of his actions?

 

I'm not sure how to work it so that vote-kick isnt abused, but this guy joined into 3 or 4 of my games one night and just ruined them on purpose. I dont have tons of gameplay time, I sure would like to be able to boot someone out who is purposefully ruining games and be able to enjoy my time.

 

Leaving games with him doesnt fix it either, because most likely the entire team rage quits, game is over, and pretty much the same group of players gets into the game again... sometimes you get into a good game but 75% of the time I got dumped right back into a Goggles inclusive lobby. At that point, I drop out of lobby, wait 5 min, then join again.

 

I know... do an IH and I wouldnt have to deal with this. However, I dont have time to IH normally, and there is still the issue of someone ruining pubs on purpose even if I'm not there. People like this drive down our total player numbers.

 

Just frustrates me...

[HarryHootie]

flob YES NEW SUMDEUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OPReN]

vote kick has really high potential to be abused

here i have the better suggestion

add "black list" on game

i know it's possible to kick specific peoples from game because i've seen in other arcades

when someone posts a replay to ban someone, whale/wrath or other mods can watch replay then discuss about if they're gonna ban that guy or not

Thoughts?

[Grantypoo]

I would be fine with that, other than it requires a lot of active involvement from the developers. Time watching the replay, discussing if it is ban worthy... would be time consuming and a slow process. Not really fair, if you ask me, to make them spend their time on that. I'd rather them be able to spend their time developing.

 

I agree vote-kick has a potential to be abused.

 

It could be worked so that certain conditions have to be met, just like surrendering. You cant surrender before 25 minutes unless you have 3 or less people on team, so I know conditions can be set... I dont know the mechanics of it, but hey that's what devs are for :)

 

Vote-kick could be based off AFK time... if someone hasnt done any input into the game for 180 seconds, allow a vote-kick... I know I dont like it when someone joins game, then goes afk for 10 minutes, comes back and goes to lane at level 1 vs level 10 heros and constantly feeds. Or when they think the game is going to be lost, so they want to stop playing but if team wont surrender, they wont just take a loss, instead they go back to base and just afk... which makes it even harder for the team to win.

 

It could also be based off players left on the team. If there are 5 players left on team A and 1 players left on team B, allow vote kick of the single player. Perhaps even 5vs2, but that would need to be discussed.

 

Also based on kill/death/assist ratio, tied in with creep score somehow. If someone was purposefully feeding, they would have 0 kills, lots of deaths, most likely no assists and little to no creep as well. At some certain ratio, vote-kick could be allowed.

 

Anyway, there are many options out there, I'd love to see ANY implemented. I think we lose people daily to trolls doing what they do best and we cant afford that.

[Doom]

Make it so only if all your other teammates vote for it, can you kick someone. There is no penalty for leaving, and if your entire team wants you out, then they'll make your game miserable anyway, even if they can't kick you. Even if you get a roving premade of troll "kickers" you can quite simply start another. Also, it will make being a dickbag to your teammates actually punishable. Also, you can enable it for some constant of deaths/game time. That way, whether they are doing it intentionally or not, if they are feeding (like a LOT, it would have to be, say a death per minute, (starting from 10 mins into the game)), you can remove them. Motivates at least a little caution in noobs (let's face it though, you'd need to be intentionally feeding to do this bad).

Edited November 20, 2014 by Doom

[Jaysi]

Make it so only if all your other teammates vote for it, can you kick someone. There is no penalty for leaving, and if your entire team wants you out, then they'll make your game miserable anyway, even if they can't kick you. Even if you get a roving premade of troll "kickers" you can quite simply start another. Also, it will make being a dickbag to your teammates actually punishable.

 

Yes... but then you just ban the one feeder on your team or noob who doesn't know how to play well... They keep getting kicked from every game, get frustrated, and just stop playing entirely, which loses us new players.

[OPReN]

I would be fine with that, other than it requires a lot of active involvement from the developers. Time watching the replay, discussing if it is ban worthy... would be time consuming and a slow process. Not really fair, if you ask me, to make them spend their time on that. I'd rather them be able to spend their time developing.

 

I agree vote-kick has a potential to be abused.

 

It could be worked so that certain conditions have to be met, just like surrendering. You cant surrender before 25 minutes unless you have 3 or less people on team, so I know conditions can be set... I dont know the mechanics of it, but hey that's what devs are for :)

 

Vote-kick could be based off AFK time... if someone hasnt done any input into the game for 180 seconds, allow a vote-kick... I know I dont like it when someone joins game, then goes afk for 10 minutes, comes back and goes to lane at level 1 vs level 10 heros and constantly feeds. Or when they think the game is going to be lost, so they want to stop playing but if team wont surrender, they wont just take a loss, instead they go back to base and just afk... which makes it even harder for the team to win.

 

It could also be based off players left on the team. If there are 5 players left on team A and 1 players left on team B, allow vote kick of the single player. Perhaps even 5vs2, but that would need to be discussed.

 

Also based on kill/death/assist ratio, tied in with creep score somehow. If someone was purposefully feeding, they would have 0 kills, lots of deaths, most likely no assists and little to no creep as well. At some certain ratio, vote-kick could be allowed.

 

Anyway, there are many options out there, I'd love to see ANY implemented. I think we lose people daily to trolls doing what they do best and we cant afford that.

no i mean mods or others can take that job and do it

i didnt say whale/wrath have to do it

[Yaldi]

If that is how he likes to have fun why should we ruin his fun?

[OPReN]

If that is how he likes to have fun why should we ruin his fun?

Because it makes others NOT to have fun

[Yaldi]

 

Because it makes others NOT to have fun

 

I dont care aboit other peoples fun only mine...

[WhaleTits]

Hmm from my experience Goggles seems to either be a troll or very young. Unfortunately I can't tell (lol). Highdrater is convinced it is a girl.

 

Regardless, KDA modifier will be in beta soon, which should significantly reduce the impact of a 0-10 teammate.

[JohnSmith]

Sup Cruizers.

[king]

Regardless, KDA modifier will be in beta soon, which should significantly reduce the impact of a 0-10 teammate.

 

This works for me, hopefully after feeding a bit there benefit of killing a feeder is pretty negligible.

 

HOWEVER I still think there needs to be an AFK vote-kick option. I have had several games ruined by people going afk. I have also won games with AFK team members, but that is harder to do, and normally the other team was just bad.

 

Something where team can -votekick "name" and they get a pop up asking "Do you want to be voted off the island?" with a 100 second count down. If they don't click "I want to stay" they get dropped, no loss of ranking. This might allow a person to graciously leave a game where they are feeding (not on purpose of course). It would have to have an internal cool down of 5 minutes or so to prevent BM / abuse.

[Guest Googles]

well lookie here. I come back to the forums after a few days and ive already made the front page. I don't say that every game. Only the pubs that i feel like trolling. Some games my team fails the challenge and RQs but others they overcome and win despite having to carry me. it makes them better players. if u want to get stomped come inhouse. you will read BURN SUCKA every time i gank u and u die. or just catch me when im nt trolling.

[Guest Googles]

thanks to those on mumble last time i was on. I no longer think ur just elitist bastards. Roonaldo still pissed me off but people like Apache and Revision made the game fun. highdrater was funny too.

[Grantypoo]

Hmm from my experience Goggles seems to either be a troll or very young. Unfortunately I can't tell (lol). Highdrater is convinced it is a girl.

 

Regardless, KDA modifier will be in beta soon, which should significantly reduce the impact of a 0-10 teammate.

 

I look forward to seeing this, hope it all works out. 100% sure on the troll thing, as to whether he is young or a girl I have no idea :)

 

well lookie here. I come back to the forums after a few days and ive already made the front page. I don't say that every game. Only the pubs that i feel like trolling. Some games my team fails the challenge and RQs but others they overcome and win despite having to carry me. it makes them better players. if u want to get stomped come inhouse. you will read BURN SUCKA every time i gank u and u die. or just catch me when im nt trolling.

 

I've only played 3 or 4 games with you recently that I can recall, and in every one you did the same thing and ruined the game for all.

 

Not sure why you get a kick out of ruining 9 other people's fun.

 

To be honest, this post isnt really about you other than you're the latest example of one person on a mission to be a troll, and I wish we had something we could do about it. Swap your name for someone else and the story is the same, we have one person who is driving new players away and purposefully causing regulars to enjoy the game less. I'd like to not see that happening.

[John]

People getting mad are the reason idiots like this are having fun and continue doing it.

 

If none said a word and continued to play like he wasn't in the game he'd get bored pretty quickly.

 

 

It pretty much works the same with people posting junk on the forums and people replying to it.

Edited November 22, 2014 by John

[EterNity]

This is the reason why people rather play In House than Pubs.

 

The ability to choice your teammate is also completely up to the players.

 

If you do not want to group up in the chat before queuing the game, it is completely fair that you encounter this type of behaviors.

 

Our developers have many things to do and I just don't see this being a priority since it can be easily avoided by simply playing as a stack of 5 or play In House.

[Grantypoo]

People getting mad are the reason idiots like this are having fun and continue doing it.

 

If none said a word and continued to play like he wasn't in the game he'd get bored pretty quickly.

 

It pretty much works the same with people posting junk on the forums and people replying to it.

I agree 100%. I didnt say a word to him any of the games he was in, even the ones where he was talking trash and trolling big time. I never respond to people like that.

This is the reason why people rather play In House than Pubs.

 

The ability to choice your teammate is also completely up to the players.

 

If you do not want to group up in the chat before queuing the game, it is completely fair that you encounter this type of behaviors.

 

Our developers have many things to do and I just don't see this being a priority since it can be easily avoided by simply playing as a stack of 5 or play In House.

I dont agree. I dont have time, a lot of evenings, to sit down and go through the in house process, or the time to form up 5 players and then go pubstomping which I dont enjoy anyway. In house I enjoy, it is just time consuming, but the 5 man pub stomp is boring. I've never liked being the guy with the magnifying glass and the ants.

 

Some nights I can just get on, hit join game and play one game then I've got to go, and it would make it much more enjoyable in those times if there was a vote kick option for obvious trolls.