Doom Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 E allows perfect Q almost every time. 120 + 60% int per minion = highest burst damage spell in the game, which was sorta balanced before, because you at least had to get something like atom smasher or lockbox or something, before you could land the perfect q, and even so, it required skill and know-how. I am not a pro bio player, i just went 19-0 in a pub because I could take squishies from 100% to 0% with just E-Q, no double e or ult or skill needed. Pls nerf before someone else smartens up (haven't met anyone else that uses int builds instead of str, thank god, biotron is rare as is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Eh I've done int bio some, and for a pub were you can pick off people with no real risk yea its good, but it leaves you a lot more vulnerable if you happen to get caught as you don't have the hp a str bio would, plus your civs do nothing so once you use your q your useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Everything is possible in pubs.. Even before change I was always getting like 20 kills.. Tryed few times in ih, doesent rly work as destroyer said hes too much squishy to do good. Int scalings on bio are fine since in real games ull always go tank,thers no need to lower dmg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Everything is possible in pubs.. This sums up pretty much everything. AA rancor, AA raynor, Hell even AA Egon can work in pub games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Doug went 42-6 on old zeratul by building full intelligence in pubs. OPReN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZERATUL Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 That friend of urs doug reminds me of chinua, guy that was every game going some unorthodox builds( for example zera with mantle, rune, impact etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 So it's fine that with just argus, and another int item an E-Q (which you can do from out of sight due to how large the E range is on bio) kills some squishy from full (in the game I played, I would kill cyp and jakk like this, and leave a tank cain with 10% which my ult easily finished. They had a str bio, and my combo would leave him with about 35% hp. If you say that he's squishy and can be killed quickly, yes, he is not as tanky as str bio, I admit. So what? His combo range is extreme. He deals more damage than rancor, raynor, cyprus, vergil, etc to a single target. Yes, he has to do it from melee range, but do not forget..... he still has his ult afterward. You can instakill one hero, and ult another one, either easily getting away due to the cc they provide, or deal enough damage, and distract them enough that you can pull a second e-q. He is probably ok in IHs because everyone only picks str heroes and stacks aura items on them (well there is usually one nova or something of the like, that they other 4 heroes protect, but....... ) thus making it hard for a caster to get fed, since everyone has 3 K hp in midgame, but pubs when you actually see more than 1 non-tank hero aren't like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heimdallr Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 So it's fine that with just argus, and another int item an E-Q (which you can do from out of sight due to how large the E range is on bio) kills some squishy from full YES if they did not see your item build and got spell resist before you finished argus + gravity?(or whatever the other endgame intel item u had)....post replay to see that critic build cain, hp less and resist less cyprus and whatever the other all dps hero you spellnuked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantypoo Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Most heros that have the ability to burst, whether they are specifically designed that way or not (for instance bio I dont think was intended to be able to burst by going full int, but you can somewhat exploit that) can do well in a pub when built completely for burst DPS. This is nothing new. Nor should the game be changed around it, imo. Unless you get horribly far ahead quickly, an int bio is going to be nothing but a drag on your team towards the late game. And as everyone has said, anything works in a pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 bio straight int is just to weak. if you can get lucky to get their softies its ok. but as soon as they get ts its worthless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucKiesT Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 i agree bio solo INT is weak and its a pity he dosent gain spell leach if he uses his ulti on someone (tried a troll build with him in a pub) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I think mixed build is better for pubs. If u open with CoA, Atom, etc. and later switch to straight INT. Besides I don't think so Bio can one-shot anyone if enemy team has Spell Buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Googles Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 INT bio sucks small cock. U wont kill them with ur combo if they arent idiots and then ur squishy and die in two shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucKiesT Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Please change INT bio so he gets spell leach with his ulti, ty :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I already have 1 replay of int bio wrecking (only played one game with him so far, since I have so little time to play AoS, atm, I play only play my favorite heroes, which bio is certainly not part of), in about 2 weeks I will have enough free time to play others. When that happens, I shall show ye naysayers how its done (10 replays straight, even if I lose and get crushed horribly, though I can quite confidently say I'm going to go at least 4-1 kdr (more likely infinite), >8/10 wins by surrender/rqs) Edited November 21, 2014 by Doom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I go something like 30-5 every time I play str bio in pubs, must be op. Adamantium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I go something like 30-5 every time I play str bio in pubs, must be op. Unless you can replicate that with every other assassin/isolated hero hunter/etc, than yeah, it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Unless you can replicate that with every other assassin/isolated hero hunter/etc, than yeah, it is. So you don't factor in that its pubs and that destroyer is extremely good at bio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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