Doom Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Good amount of weapon speed, and armor pen always nice, but it seems to only exist to counteract DST on melee or near melee heroes that have a hard time chasing...... and those are few. Haven't seen it used once by anyone other than myself, and even when I did use it, there seemed to be better alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I kinda agree, outclassed by arcbound. Make it the ultimate weapon speed item, since arcbound and pyre have better other stats IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Try it on Toxi and it will blow your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Try it on Toxi and it will blow your mind. Wouldn't it be better on someone with tons of physical damage to use its 15% armor pen? martY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Wouldn't it be better on someone with tons of physical damage to use its 15% armor pen? Â Think he means the move speed is great for the toxi ult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revision Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) There is no move speed, just slow immunity. And that's weapon speed slow immunity too Edited November 16, 2014 by AtomiK Moo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 It should give movement speed + slow immunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 just like roa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 just like roa  That would be copying other games which we all know it's not allowed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martY Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I haven't played around with it a whole lot yet, but the armor pen goes really well with Nova's Scope. I've only used a few builds with her since the patch, but I'm willing to bet there's a winning combo out there that involves this item against tank heavy teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysi Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 So does no unit collision mean you can run over mountains or just things such as ring, cow walls, FF, etc? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Only heroes/ creeps, unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 You can run out of lz ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkr Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 You can run out of lz ring. Would be cool if you could also cross things like cow's q or cyp's pillars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHootie Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 if they are then Lions bane would be the worse item in the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I haven't played around with it a whole lot yet, but the armor pen goes really well with Nova's Scope. I've only used a few builds with her since the patch, but I'm willing to bet there's a winning combo out there that involves this item against tank heavy teams. Armor pen and pyre would be good vs tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Max damage build-> Xenomorph, Gauss Cannon, Archbound, Khali, Pyre, Galactic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Max damage build-> Xenomorph, Gauss Cannon, Archbound, Khali, Pyre, Galactic? If you are agi then shinobi gives more damage than galactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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