Doom Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I can picture myself getting it on Tychus, Kerrigan, at a stretch erekul. It doesn't seem even close to viable on any other hero. It's expensive, and other items are a lot better (ex cerebro for mana-hungry heroes, darwin's might for sustain, etc, etc. It only seems good if you are tanky, have mana problems, and pretty good sustained damage, whether that is spell or physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martY Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I haven't found a whole lot of uses for this item because of how damn expensive it is. I usually just stick with Khala Stone (amazing item) and then sell it when I'm ready to replace that slot. It just doesn't offer a whole lot of damage or utility by the time you're buying it (mid-late game). I honestly haven't tried rushing it, but I can't imagine it would be a better choice than the vast majority of 1k-2k items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Compare to other "new" items, it is really weak. I'd have to agree with that. It is almost like Whale import his favorite from RoA and totally forgot about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Yeah basically the unique has to be stronger or the price significantly brought down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I been saying it was junk from Day 1. But honestly. Build Crit on every ranged hero and you cant lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 dat icon so sexy doe. es ok I BUFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 what bout Cirt? Even with the increased price / nerf on Arc Bound. I still think its pretty much required to be bought on every dps. The unique are just to good. Getting all the mobility plus wep speed. and it gives 45% crit!!!!!! That plus 1 other item is all you need for a whole crit build to be complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 The must have item has shifted from Lethal Barb to Arc Bound. I think Whale needs to seriously consider the placement of stats in each items. There should NOT be an all-around item that gives everything a hero needs. It takes away the verities and choices from players unless they want to pick the "second tier" item and under perform. Revolution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 To be fair in LOL you only see static shiv / phantom dancer bought. For wep speed. EterNity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Yeah and you also just get 2 crit items in league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrubbaDubNub Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Right now, all hard aa carries except toxi ALWAYS builds crit. There are almost no reasons to not build crit. As I envision it, crit builds should seem weaker in comparison to straight on-hit/ad/as builds in the mid game because of the RNG behind crit: it's not as strong on average until your chance of dealing extra damage is high. I could write a huge tirade about how stupid aa builds are right now, but just about everthirst: coat of arms is similar to it and better as well. Normally, this might lead to everthirst's slight differences making it a niche item on some heroes, but all of the heroes that synergize well with everthirst synergize with coat of arms just as well, and, as I said, coat is just better. Edited November 5, 2014 by ScrubbaDubNub Noobz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysi Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 And the whole every item has mobility thing... I feel like the agility stats are just bad that you gain from items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Well, let's hope Whale do something to this problem or we could just be facing toward League's build in which there is a set of items to get and going otherwise makes you weak. Maybe it is intended but we don't really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yeah and you also just get 2 crit items in league. not rly. You see people getting 3 or 4 crit items in LOL I.E , Phantom / Static ,Ghost Blade , Trinity force etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 the thing about crit is arcbound got nerfed little bit on the other hand pyre got super hard nerf making it completely useless imagine that you're on teamfight u gotta focus squishies to win it and if targetted enemy think they're low on health, they will just pull back so 90% of the situation target's health will be lower than yours means most of the time you only get 4% effect from pyre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The must have item has shifted from Lethal Barb to Arc Bound. I think Whale needs to seriously consider the placement of stats in each items. There should NOT be an all-around item that gives everything a hero needs. It takes away the verities and choices from players unless they want to pick the "second tier" item and under perform. flobING THANK YOU!!! I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS shap SINCE ROA!! @Quid I think Adam meant normally champs in LoL will buy a total of 2 crit items 90% of the time. Generally you go IE/statikk or bork, ghostblade into IE. PD isn't really built to much anymore. Unless you're corki/ezreal then you'd get triforce and IE. Generally you wouldnt get statikk AND ghostblade since thats not as efficient. EterNity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yes rev. Also yeah crit is pretty much the strongest route in terms of raw damage output right now. Though it's not necessary to do well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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