Ancientmagicks Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 They are truly a pain and when done right it's a Perma stun. How about making it a slow or sharing a cd with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 They are pretty easy to kill, or just get a parallax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 They are pretty easy to kill, or just get a parallax. parralax doesnt do anything... when was the last time you played this game... mynhauzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabrielmcg Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 dont forget that toshes q adds to the op stun lock. just ban tosh, unless youre talking about pubs. paralax or burst should do the trick.. tosh has to go sudo tank dps to really survive. the spectres i think are fine, maybe change the q to a slow instead of a stun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPReN Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 best way to counter tosh is null Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Tosh is strong but not OP. SayMyName 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosaji Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 parralax doesnt do anything... when was the last time you played this game... Yesterday... How does parallax not help vs tosh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yesterday... How does parallax not help vs tosh? Use 1 spectre's stun>wait 2 sec>proceed with full combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Use 1 spectre's stun>wait 2 sec>proceed with full combo. you don't even need to wait you can stun in succession anyway, the parralax active doesn't stop it... unless your doing it wrong and using your Q before your utilising all 4 spectre stuns, then yes it will clear the Q stun but that's it it wont stop your time splitter or any of the spectre stuns Edited March 20, 2014 by ANARCHY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosaji Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 you don't even need to wait you can stun in succession anyway, the parralax active doesn't stop it... unless your doing it wrong and using your Q before your utilising all 4 spectre stuns, then yes it will clear the Q stun but that's it it wont stop your time splitter or any of the spectre stuns it gives you 2 seconds of immunity.... Yes, stuns cut through parallax to stop channels, but you won't actually be stunned for an appreciable amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I agree it is OP. 1st prallax is not that cheap and you cannot really get it early so u might get killed often by the time you buy it unless you have escape or ward everywhere. 2 prallax saves u for 2 seconds good luck after that. You will still be slowed after that 2 seconds also tosh can just run you out with his ulti. 3 it is one of the most frustrating things to get slowed and stunned for like 6 seconds or longer. Edited March 20, 2014 by Soundwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxHaven Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Its not op. Its the feature of this specific heroes. Whats op is this item called stun knife which gives anyone 2 stuns like 2 spectres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I agree it is OP. 1st prallax is not that cheap and you cannot really get it early so u might get killed often by the time you buy it unless you have escape or ward everywhere. 2 prallax saves u for 2 seconds good luck after that. You will still be slowed after that 2 seconds also tosh can just run you out with his ulti. 3 it is one of the most frustrating things to get slowed and stunned for like 6 seconds or longer. So why this op while unix is not op? about 10 secs of silence, no attacks and no move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) So why this op while unix is not op? about 10 secs of silence, no attacks and no move. Maybe cause you can just walk away from his ulti because his tentacle is moving slowly? If ur not fast enough for that buy ts ward or elixir and he will never get you with his ulti withouth using his W. Even if you get grabbed by W all caracters that have evasion have an easy time against him. If you dont have evasion there is a high chance that you have a silence or a stun u can use. Lets say you got hit by his W and R. Well he still does not have that 1000 dps that Toash has. Edited March 20, 2014 by Soundwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Get one of the many heroes with AoE and kill his spectres easily. Leave them alive and enjoy a 4.4 second stun. ginosaji and Destroyer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancientmagicks Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I agree that's the general idea to stop it, but it is rarely so simple especially if tosh is half competent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I agree that's the general idea to stop it, but it is rarely so simple especially if tosh is half competent I believe you are using "rarely" to describe the wrong situation. Most tosh players keep their specters grouped up nearby. Rarely will the specters be managed in a way that makes it hard to take them out with AoE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Iirc, Parallax, upon activation, gives you immunity. I am pretty sure that will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysi Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Iirc, Parallax, upon activation, gives you immunity. I am pretty sure that will help. Immunity, or periodic debuff removal? Periodic being what, every .3 seconds? Still helpful against the .8 second spectre stuns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancientmagicks Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 That problem is parallax is trigger by any debuff ie aa with foe then stun stun stun dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indo Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Atleast they are 1hit, unlike unix infested which are simply retarded (Wtf50%spellresist, decent amount of hp, have the best push ability and are the most spammable ones. Just becaus they are so slow????? Mostly even tbone can't 1combo them with wall and w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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