TaxHaven Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Is beta map 1.3 HoTS-locked? Is it possible to unlock for WoL? Or is that not allowed by Blizz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHydra Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yep, it is still unavailable for WoL users. You could use their spawning feature, or you'll just have to wait for the next SCII update. CoolNoob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKCO Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Spawning just means you need to be in a party with someone that has HotS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 It might just be me, But i hate how the game forces you to be slightly zoomed in, And you cant zoom out. That i have figured out fideY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombieee Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 its not just you:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 its not just you:D I brought it up with Red, He said eco looked into it for a few mins and its a pretty hard problem to fix. Then he proceeded to lay the foundation that its a good change. By telling me he thought the game looked more epic cause everything is bigger and more fun. I expressed that i enjoyed the old view because your field of vision was bigger. He then "continuing" to lay the foundation expressed " That well the less you can see the less lag the game will produce"..... Lag has never been an issue for me!! I wont lie that im extremely fearful this will become a "feature" (post # 14) This is literally a deal breaking issue for me. If it stays i will pretty much 100% quit AOS EterNity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHydra Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Then he proceeded to lay the foundation that its a good change. By telling me he thought the game looked more epic cause everything is bigger and more fun. I expressed that i enjoyed the old view because your field of vision was bigger. He then "continuing" to lay the foundation expressed " That well the less you can see the less lag the game will produce"..... Lag has never been an issue for me!! Hm, you make it seem like I was preaching to you about why it's good. I didn't say the bug was hard, neither did I persistently advocate the change. I only said two things: The map felt bigger/epic when we were playing, and it slightly helped people who play the game with low-end computers. Just because the positives were mentioned doesn't mean we're definitely sticking to it. However, making the game playable for everyone is always our top priority. We've learned a lot over the past few years. And one of the things that we wanted to do now is improving the clarity of the game to make it easier for beginners to get into, while ensuring that it doesn't affect the gameplay for veterans significantly. Edited January 12, 2014 by Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Making the game playable for everyone is always the top priority. zooming in makes the game very unplayable for everybody, especially in this fast paced meta i hope there is a way to make it fixed Edited January 12, 2014 by ANARCHY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hm, you make it seem like I was preaching to you about why it's good. I didn't say the bug was hard, neither did I persistently advocate the change. I only said two things: The map felt bigger/epic when we were playing, and it slightly helped people who play the game with low-end computers. Making the game playable for everyone is always the top priority. I'm sorry If your offended. But I don't think i related our conversation completely out of context. I neither state your for or against the change. I simply repeated the positive aspects of the change that you mentioned to me. Unfortunately you did not mention a single negative opinion on the change, that I was able to repeat. All I did was state my opinion that after talking with you im slightly fearful the bug will stay. That you guys simply will decided the issue at hand isn't worth fixing and using the two positive points you provided as reason behind your decision. I might of misspoke about the bug being hard to fix. But you did say he didn't know why the bug was there and it was a likley cause from some hidden HOTS patch from blizzard. And i got the impression the bug was hard to fix. I do apologize on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeeend Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Can you post 2 screenshot of big (lvl 3) micro with siegecreep in wave in beta and not (Giant micro is usefull to check sizes), that way the players without acces see the zoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Beta Public Map Just for me on my resolution the beta map is just so unenjoyable. You can click on the pic to make them bigger. There doesn't seem to be much of a difference in the preview. Any one can view the beta map on the EU server. Its name is aeon of storms test But the New Hero looks cool. Even tho it seems kinda big. RedHydra and MOTHER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Beta Public Map It would be nice if it stays like the beta less vision = more challenge and skill required to play, also map awareness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 OMG thats like half the fircken size (look at the pillar near the water on the right side to compare) this will be a game breaker for me, ive put up with alot of shap but this will just be stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 The bigger the map, the less sight you have, the more challenging it is, the more fun it is:3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 It would be nice if it stays like the beta less vision = more challenge and skill required to play, also map awareness I bet you play DOTA 2...... This is the general consensus from dota players. The bigger the map, the less sight you have, the more challenging it is, the more fun it is:3 Still its a matter of opinion. If you want the map that close you can simply use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom in a bit. But the problem i have is. This level of zoom is the default and i cant zoom out. Its just a deal breaker. With all the other issues the game has. I wont be able to look past them any more with this feature. The whole reason they changed the UI at the bottom character bar was to give players a bigger field of vision. If this zoomed in version stays. There pretty much undoing that change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) I bet you play DOTA 2...... This is the general consensus from dota players. But you can't deny that it would make the game more challenging/interesting (?) Beta Public Map Just for me on my resolution the beta map is just so unenjoyable. You can click on the pic to make them bigger. There doesn't seem to be much of a difference in the preview. Any one can view the beta map on the EU server. Its name is aeon of storms test But the New Hero looks cool. Even those it seems kinda big. are the spells available? Edited January 12, 2014 by residente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 But you can't deny that it would make the game more challenging/interesting (?) Id love to be ulted by raynor off screen........ Challenging? Yes, Interesting? No, more like frustrating. This is simply a direction that i cant get behind. Id rather not spend my leisure time playing a game that is more frustrating then enjoyable. If its your cup of tea im all for it. As i said above. If you wana zoom in and play go for it. I dont want that. I bet this is how you really want to play. Makes it more challenging and interesting no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 And I don't think I can have any say in this conversation, I can't really play AoS anymore:C Have to agree with the gaynor part though, his range on his ulti is ridiculous:C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) I bet this is how you really want to play. Makes it more challenging and interesting no? Spot the differences: Meh: You can see everything, why do I even look at the minimap? YOLO Challenging: you can see a lot, but you can still be ganked Retarded: you can't see shap, better go play fps games I got your point and it's as valid as mine, but don't go full ** with this kind of grounds to prove me wrong Edited January 12, 2014 by residente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 @Resedente Yes the spells are available. The hero is complete its just buggy atm. I really enjoy his kit. I think Eco did a great job. Q. A grapple appears to be 5 units long W. An aoe slow the emmits from the hero when he "stomps" the ground E. A 15 units tunnel with a slight channel and travel time. "non damaging" R. More or Less Drake ult heal. The hero gains a huge health regen boost. Its a tank initiator. Designed to provide a lot of cc. Its gap closing and CC are really good, But it doesn't have a lot of natural damage. I think the 15 unit blink is a little strong but thats why its a beta test Is this better for you?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 @Resedente Yes the spells are available. The hero is complete its just buggy atm. I really enjoy his kit. I think Eco did a great job. Q. A grapple appears to be 5 units long W. An aoe slow the emmits from the hero when he "stomps" the ground E. A 15 units tunnel with a slight channel and travel time. R. More or Less Drake ult heal. The hero gains a huge health regen boost. Its a tank initiator. Designed to provide a lot of cc. Its gap closing and CC are really good, But it doesn't have a lot of natural damage. I think the 15 unit blink is a little strong but thats why its a beta test Is this better for you?? It looks badass :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 i have to concur with quidditch on this one, it seems absurd with the current range of items, abilities and movement speed to reduce the field of vision even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Imagine Quidditch plays with opposition Maar XD CoolNoob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokiHe Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 How to find this beta map? Can someone please post detailed skill set including passive. Khyrak.Avenger seems much more powerful and interesting than Dehaka according to Quidditch's information. Blink, slow, pull and ult regen may be effective control but sounds not fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrflare Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Wait, so the Beta map will be all zoomed in like that?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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