jamescossey Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 it would be nice to have a support type item like eye of narud. being able to cast out observers and do extra damage to neutals. instead of crits doing extra damage to creep instead you can get health and mana regen when last hitting a creep. components: Hunters hatchet Lost treasure soul engine 100 health 5 health regen 2 mana regen 2% cool down reduction 0.05 movement speed (unique) your attacks deal 25% true damage after mitigation to creep. when you kill a creep u gain 20 health and 10 energy. (active) create an observer(last 60 seconds, 30 sec cool down) cost could be same total of eye of narud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) durans machette; heals for 12hp on hit durans pendant leeches 12mana on hit problem? TBH i preferred the old eye of nurad that gave sight range increase was great to see ganks coming from further away Edited January 10, 2014 by ANARCHY MOTHER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 im lost on what your getting at about the machete and pendant. but with eye of narud how it is it would be nice for a support to have an item with the observers. and machete heals no matter which creep or hero u attack where as pendant only does the mana if the target has any. on creep only hydras, there is only 1 at the start of the game. and most int heroes are not going to be auto attacking enemy heroes early. so that leeches 12 mana on hit is worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 support heroes shouldn't be last hitting that's your carries job i have suggested numerous times that duran's pendant should just give you mana no matter what you attack, its not really fair that both other durans items unique's don't have any other additional pre-requisites heimdallr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I have suggested to red at least twice, That there needs to be a item comparable to the Ruby Sight Stone, From LOL. Eye is close but it only favors one class of hero. DPS There needs to be an mid tier item that offers some health and has a unique active where you can place wards on the map or use observers. That your support hero will use. Once you get late game and you have all 6 item slots filled. You can not buy wards any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 there needs to be an end game item for wards and scanner. it really sucks when you have no rancor on your team, the other team has a shadow and all your slots are filled. should you really have to keep an item slow open for a scanner just to counter shadow ultimate. this is the reason I suggested before that TS elixir should allow the player with it to be immune from sight reduction effects. shadow ulti, maar passive and so on. heimdallr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyGFunk Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Would it be easier to have a 7th item slot or even a few item slots that can only carry consumeable items? I have been long wondering how to maintain warding into the late game with no open item slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Would it be easier to have a 7th item slot or even a few item slots that can only carry consumeable items? I have been long wondering how to maintain warding into the late game with no open item slots. In IH you dont get to full items so apparently its not an issue but i agree 1 item slot for consumables and wards is a good idea i also think a new type of ward that only reveals radar and cannot be detected by truesight would be a nice addition into the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 In IH you dont get to full items so apparently its not an issue but i agree 1 item slot for consumables and wards is a good idea i also think a new type of ward that only reveals radar and cannot be detected by truesight would be a nice addition into the game If you want wards and scans you have to sacrifice an item. Map vision is entitely worth not having an item on on of your heroes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Would it be easier to have a 7th item slot or even a few item slots that can only carry consumeable items? I have been long wondering how to maintain warding into the late game with no open item slots. If I remember right there use to be only 5 slots. the problem with adding a 7th is those heroes like shadow who don't need a scanner to counter his own ultimate he will just put another great item in that 7th slot. it would need to be a slot just for consumables. but even then still it would make the game more interesting if it were an item that gave that benefit. this would make it so a player can decide early on pay 1650 to have unlimited wards plus stats, and don't have to go back to shop to get more or 75 per ward but have to go back to the shop to get more. 1650 would be 22 wards in all. then maybe have it were the item observers u can upgrade it to last 3 mins instead of 60 seconds, and it be able to detect invisible for an extra 50 minerals. just like the old observer wards did. For those who don't know how it worked. you would cast your observer then click on it. it had an option when clicked on it to upgrade it to detect invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTHER Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I don't think there should be an item like eye of narud for support heroes, rather Eye of Narud should be reworked into a support hero item because they are better suited to carry such an item like others stressed. Something along these lines: Eye of Narud +300 Health +5 HP regen +3 MP regen +20% Evasion (I mean it is the EYE of Narud, you should see shap coming and evade) [unique] Foresight: You and allied heroic units in 8u gain +1 (or +2?) sight range. [Active] Create an Observer that lasts 120 seconds. 30 second cool down. Up to 3 Observers at a time. It should cost something in the range of 2300-2600 and have LT as a component. Edited February 10, 2014 by Jessika MrGrim and Moo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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