CoolNoob Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Talents: 2/3/2 damage, 5% spell, health,spell resist,health regen, mana , swiftness Core items: Recommend : if a lot of spell attacks are hurting you , replace organic and the armor and change it for khorhal and Buffer... the other its on you. that's one build I usually start with then and stun knife for mid game... helps a lot to kill , but this build works really good vs dps character like Leo, Nova, Shadow... molgloo uhmmm not really... Another build order is this.... -->>> rush Stun knife..... farm then farm, kill some heroes... >> after contamination sharp... is good to have this... then sell phase cloack so you got so far get and if they have a dps dealing too much damage get last item could be depending on what you need like could be : , , this is a build for pubster... tho not ih... Edited November 19, 2013 by ginosaji Font size and Color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogigut Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 7 points of talents? Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Talents: 2/3/2 damage, 5% spell, health,spell resist,health regen, mana , swiftness LOL mana on penthos, what has the world come too, next you will see a vorpal taking mana talent Edited November 19, 2013 by ANARCHY atomheartman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 5% spell damage... Oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogigut Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 LOL mana on penthos, what has the world come too, next you will see a vorpal taking mana talent [troll]OP talents build on vorpal: 2/1/3 leech, weapon spd, armor, mana regen, mana, overlord The OP part? Win with this to prove you are an OP player, period. [/troll] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Alright, problems with this guide: The font size is too large so it makes it hard to read with everything in weird spots. You do not get seven talent points. You shouldn't take mana on penthos. You shouldn't get 5% spell damage on penthos, he doesn't even deal that much spell damage. The order of your guide and the grammar are also confusing. Also, khali blade isn't that good of an item on penthos, so I don't know why you are including it as a core item. Contamination shard isn't that good of an item on penthos either, unless you are building more on the glass cannon than tanky dps side, since contam shard only starts to become powerful when you have very large amounts of AD, like an endgame nova/darpa build, and you already have pyre to burn through tanks. The spot would be much better filled by a different item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) My talents used to be glitched, granting me 7 talent points in offense But I agree with Moo, this needs to be reformatted. Edited November 19, 2013 by Adamantium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 This is a troll build or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxHaven Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Guys lay off its clearly his first attempt at a guide. Although having said that... 7 talent points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I still miss when talents are more complicated, better for more types of combos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 tbh i think its time to rework the talent system spell dmg is useless lifesteal is useless fortify is ridiculously op it should be some kind of % increase scaled on what your current resist are so glass cannons cant abuse it transport is broke veteran and haste are silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) tbh i think its time to rework the talent system spell dmg is useless lifesteal is useless fortify is ridiculously op it should be some kind of % increase scaled on what your current resist are so glass cannons cant abuse it transport is broke veteran and haste are silly Finally i see that im not the one who thinks the same. Edited November 19, 2013 by atomheartman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosaji Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 CoolNoob, we've asked you once already in the past few days... Stop posting with oversize/itallic/bold/colored fonts. As for the build.. FOE and Atom smasher are very good items on him... build tanky after. Parallax is usually a must for him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mus Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 CoolNoob please fix your messed up talent build. Thanks. ginosaji 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosaji Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 CoolNoob please fix your messed up talent build. Thanks. You've been hanging out with Skydie too much Mus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Alright, problems with this guide: The font size is too large so it makes it hard to read with everything in weird spots. You do not get seven talent points. You shouldn't take mana on penthos. You shouldn't get 5% spell damage on penthos, he doesn't even deal that much spell damage. The order of your guide and the grammar are also confusing. Also, khali blade isn't that good of an item on penthos, so I don't know why you are including it as a core item. Contamination shard isn't that good of an item on penthos either, unless you are building more on the glass cannon than tanky dps side, since contam shard only starts to become powerful when you have very large amounts of AD, like an endgame nova/darpa build, and you already have pyre to burn through tanks. The spot would be much better filled by a different item. If you go lethal then khali you do loads of damage have really high attack speed and yku can spen the rest of your slots on tanky items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 If you go lethal then khali you do loads of damage have really high attack speed and yku can spen the rest of your slots on tanky items. You would also be ridiculously squishy and those items cost a lot of money to get, so you would be stuck with no defense for a very long time, which would pretty much only work in pubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 You would also be ridiculously squishy and those items cost a lot of money to get, so you would be stuck with no defense for a very long time, which would pretty much only work in pubs. I hate crit penthos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaldi Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 You would also be ridiculously squishy and those items cost a lot of money to get, so you would be stuck with no defense for a very long time, which would pretty much only work in pubs. I didnt say you had to rush them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolNoob Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 CoolNoob, we've asked you once already in the past few days... Stop posting with oversize/itallic/bold/colored fonts. As for the build.. FOE and Atom smasher are very good items on him... build tanky after. Parallax is usually a must for him too. sorry , and the day u asked me was the same day i posted this... sorry , btw the build is good , the talent is messed up.. remover mana , and 5% spell , add fury and 7% spell resist is good on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I didnt say you had to rush them.. You did list them in the build first however, which implies that they should be your first items. Even if you are building some tankiness first, crit is still not that good because it is heavily mitigated by armor and therefore is mainly effective vs int heroes, which is why I think pyre with tanky dps items is better than going crit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 and u still have 7 talents then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 And still mana talent... epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 And still mana talent... epic. No, he said to remove the mana talent in his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosaji Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 You did list them in the build first however, which implies that they should be your first items. Even if you are building some tankiness first, crit is still not that good because it is heavily mitigated by armor and therefore is mainly effective vs int heroes, which is why I think pyre with tanky dps items is better than going crit. Every build always depends on the circumstances of a particular game. For DPS it varies a little more than with INT heroes... If they are tanky, pyre... Someone else on your team can carry pyre, go AGI. They are petty squishy, go Crit. To be honest, Penthos biggest asset in a teamfight is being able to get through the front lines and chase down key AGI/INT targets. There's really no reason for him to go pyre unless they have alot of STR heroes. Basically, penthos can get away with one Weapon speed item and one damage item, then the other 3-4 be survivability depending on the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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