Ancientmagicks Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I just tried eternity on Drake last night. I thought its leach with all of his spells plus shm was impressive, plus the extra armor from agi and cd reduction were nice. It was a fairly lopsided pub tho so it's true value probably wasnt seen. Any thoughts or ideas would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysi Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I love how we get rid of/heavily nerf spell leech items but then we add a 20% ability leech item... It will be very strong on AoE heroes like Virgil and Toxi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I don't think Eternity is a good choice on Drake. Eternity does not approves. CoolNoob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I don't think Eternity is a good choice on Drake. Eternity does not approves. Probably you should stop play Drake (if played))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Probably you should stop play Drake (if played))) You should try to learn more and stop being stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancientmagicks Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I'm not sure if I completely understand the mechanics of the item. So it well essentially leach for 20% of any spell damage dealt or its there a caveat in there some where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Drake ult already heal him like max health and energy, that item is a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancientmagicks Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Drake's ulti isn't even close to a full heal now. It's something like 7%/sec for five seconds if I recall correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Drake's ulti isn't even close to a full heal now. It's something like 7%/sec for five seconds if I recall correctly. Organic and Lifetech will finish the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 You should try to learn more and stop being stupid. You should calm down and stop being stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 You should calm down and stop being stupid. "Probably you should stop play Drake (if played)" If you even have a capable of posting this, why would you even made this topic ? Isn't it stupid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomheartman Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 "Probably you should stop play Drake (if played)" If you even have a capable of posting this, why would you even made this topic ? Isn't it stupid ? Man, this is a joke. Eternity said that Eternity is not a good idea on drake. Just chill already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantypoo Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Drake ult already heal him like max health and energy, that item is a waste of time. Wrong, AND you cant always plan on having ult up. In the current state I think it's a 35% total regen in the ult? 7% a second for 5 seconds or else its very close to that. I got Eternity on Drake when it was a measly 10% and it was amazing. Hit W and run through a creep wave and watch your health regen :) It helps a ton sustaining in a fight, your nonstop burn is hurting everyone else and healing you. The more creep around the better, you just heal faster and you're healing at a much faster rate than any non massive creep can damage you. I think now that it's at 20% it's an even better item for Drake. It's not "standard" tank build but with Drake's AoE spell damage it's a good item to build into I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Wrong, AND you cant always plan on having ult up. In the current state I think it's a 35% total regen in the ult? 7% a second for 5 seconds or else its very close to that. I got Eternity on Drake when it was a measly 10% and it was amazing. Hit W and run through a creep wave and watch your health regen :) It helps a ton sustaining in a fight, your nonstop burn is hurting everyone else and healing you. The more creep around the better, you just heal faster and you're healing at a much faster rate than any non massive creep can damage you. I think now that it's at 20% it's an even better item for Drake. It's not "standard" tank build but with Drake's AoE spell damage it's a good item to build into I think. You can only use ur w when near creep while organic get u w all the time with that 10% mvm speed, you can try those in Ih and tell me the answer, as the Great One once said : "Every build can work in pubs" ( Doesn't mean that IH > pubs ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantypoo Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I certainly didnt say dont get Organic. I'd still get the classic tank items but swap one out for Eternity. It's worked very well for me in the past with the 10% version and I assume even better now with the 20% version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 This thread is such a good read. The Mods should sticky this thread. Jaysi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taznkid Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 How well IS Lifetech Nanosuit working out now that it has been nerfed (I think like twice)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxHaven Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Eternity doesn't leech off item effects like shm or explosive. Its based on ability so I guess the burn would do well with it. Will try taznkid, life tech is still a viable choice, still very good as long you have high hp Ancientmagicks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantypoo Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 It does very well based off Drake's W and off the ulti as well. With the nerf to Drake's ult, eternity basically puts it back to pre nerf level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 It does very well based off Drake's W and off the ulti as well. With the nerf to Drake's ult, eternity basically puts it back to pre nerf level. Which means you waste money for Eternity just to get his old ult, pls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I like the idea of eternity on Drake but as Lios said it is a wasted item on anything other than a pub game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantypoo Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Which means you waste money for Eternity just to get his old ult, pls... It's not a waste at all... it helps a ton. And it's not "just to get his old ult. It's used all the time you're doing spell damage which is basically nonstop on drake. I cant help that the devs nerfed the ult, but I can sure do things to help alleviate it. Actually with Eternity being set to 20% leech now, if you ult with 2-3 people around, you're going to regen WAY more health than the old ult would give. Completely worth it in my opinion, making Drake even more tanky than he already is. And I can see it being viable in IH, I admit I dont play in the top 2% of in house games or anything but there are plenty of IH games where Drake yanks a couple people close and ultis. It happens regularly. In that once instant, you've regened enough hps to make it worth it. It's just my opinion, but I see it as completely viable. And I get bored of everyone building the exact same thing every time, I'm more than willing to test out new items/concepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxHaven Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I can't test this in a pub, games finish by the time I bought maybe two core items like korhal and buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrflare Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 It's not a waste at all... it helps a ton. And it's not "just to get his old ult. It's used all the time you're doing spell damage which is basically nonstop on drake. I cant help that the devs nerfed the ult, but I can sure do things to help alleviate it. Actually with Eternity being set to 20% leech now, if you ult with 2-3 people around, you're going to regen WAY more health than the old ult would give. Completely worth it in my opinion, making Drake even more tanky than he already is. And I can see it being viable in IH, I admit I dont play in the top 2% of in house games or anything but there are plenty of IH games where Drake yanks a couple people close and ultis. It happens regularly. In that once instant, you've regened enough hps to make it worth it. It's just my opinion, but I see it as completely viable. And I get bored of everyone building the exact same thing every time, I'm more than willing to test out new items/concepts. Trying this build right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lios Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 It's not a waste at all... it helps a ton. And it's not "just to get his old ult. It's used all the time you're doing spell damage which is basically nonstop on drake. I cant help that the devs nerfed the ult, but I can sure do things to help alleviate it. Actually with Eternity being set to 20% leech now, if you ult with 2-3 people around, you're going to regen WAY more health than the old ult would give. Completely worth it in my opinion, making Drake even more tanky than he already is. And I can see it being viable in IH, I admit I dont play in the top 2% of in house games or anything but there are plenty of IH games where Drake yanks a couple people close and ultis. It happens regularly. In that once instant, you've regened enough hps to make it worth it. It's just my opinion, but I see it as completely viable. And I get bored of everyone building the exact same thing every time, I'm more than willing to test out new items/concepts. Try : - Int shade, Int drake, Int balrog ( his ult ), Int brine, Int darpa, Int nova, try everything in Int Tons of troll build you can try in pubs, no problem, not in Ih tho, cuz ur team gonna get mad ( I saw one, someone get mad cuz someone build critrog in Ih :d ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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