xelovex Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Name: Boros.Geminus the firelectric master. Portrait: same as boros Unit Base: same as boros Type: Script :Starting Stats:Base Health – same as boros (maybe higher abit) Movement Speed – same as boros Attack Range – same as boros Attack Speed – same as boros Base Damage – same as boros Attack Name | Animation - same as boros Base Armor – same as boros This boros uses energy rather than mana, energy is max at 200, and regens 10 per second. He has 2 blades, fire is alr there, so a new blade but different color and eletric animations. --Heroic Passive: Double Strike"After boros uses an ability, he will strike using both of his fire and eletric blades, slowing the enemy if boros is using fire blade by 20% or if boros is using eletric blade, burns enemy for 15 true damage every 1 second for 3 seconds. (You can toggle, fire or electric blade but normal attacks are done with fire blade." --Ability One: Spell Storm"Same as boros's spell storm"Energy: 120/110/100/90 --Ability Two: Eletric Bola"Same thing, but the caught enemy won't return, it will be stunned. Same as old boros." Energy Cost: 100/90/80/70 Cooldown: 13/12/11/10 Range: 10/11/12/13 Ability Three: Toggle, Fire/EletricYou can toggle, whether you want to use fireblade or eltricblade, normal is fireblade, using eletricblade costs 20 energy everytime you hit, but every hit puts a eletric mark on the enemy max of 3, which increases his eletric spells (his q and his w) by 5/10/15/20, damage according to how many marks there are. Example, 3 marks, it would increase by 15 damage at level 1. For fire, every 4th attack, double strikes (boros's passive) dealing extra 20/30/40/50 scaling of (20% AD) physical damage.-- Ultimate Ability: OmnistrikeSame thing. Energy Cost: 0 Level 1: 200 (30%AD) phy damage 3strikes. Level 2: 300 (40%AD) phy damage 4strikes. Level 3: 400 (50%AD) phy damage 5strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelovex Posted October 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Boros is so op and so simple so how about adding eletric to make it more challenging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeeend Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 How would this work with duran pendant and stars? I kinda liked the early mana problem on boros so he would waste skills amd not be able to ulti tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelovex Posted October 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 How would this work with duran pendant and stars? I kinda liked the early mana problem on boros so he would waste skills amd not be able to ulti tbh It would work alright with stars fury or anything and yes you won't need any mana to use his ultimate, but his skills deal less damage and, also its (i guess) harder to play. With starsfury, with double strike, it will just do exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeeend Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 i meant will it leach his energy/mana or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 So you are taking away his best skill, bola, and taking away the crit skill and adding a slow or extra damage to other abilities.. This doesn't make boros harder to play, it takes away his main high skillcap ability (makes it jot good, close enough to taking it away to me). Nerf omni slash damage a bit if you want to do anything, bola is boro's most rewarding and most difficult skill, you shouldn't make it bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelovex Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 And that bola was the thing that would make him very o p, but first of all it is very simple, all i wanted to do was to change the way how he is played, in a more challening way, so there could be more builds for him not just simple intellegence or agility or damage, and this way you could come up with way more strategies and adding eletric would actually make more sense to boros, as spell storm and bola seems more like eletric and omnistrike and the passive more like fire. BOros's gameplay is way too simple and it is my opinion, but really there is not many strategies to play with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Bola is the only thing that actually takes skill on boros besides knowing when to use spell storm. Making bola into the skill you currently have will make him the worst hero in the entire game. Boros is not OP, don't nerf him, because that is what this design does. The passive change and e change are fine, but the change to bola makes boros have no rewarding skill-shots and lowers the amount of skill to play him even more, along with making him extremely unrewarding if you do play him well. Also, how does your design open up more build paths for boros? It makes it so you can't build int, since your bola is a lot of int boro's damage, and bola deals damage while they are getting pulled, so your bola design would deal 0 damage, so you take away a build with this design, and what builds does your design make more popular? There are many, many heroes that are only viable when built a certain way, and boros is one of the few with two good ways to build him, so your point about trying to allow more builds on him doesn't make sense in any way that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelovex Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 1) bola deals damage as it stuns them 2) it opens up more builds, because as his passive, slow or burn, can work with other many items more than just critic strike , plus, bola is not too hard, if u just practise, and as bola gets nerfed, spell storm will give him movement speed and more damage, 3) I main my boros, do u think i would want to actually nerf him? I just want more options on how to play him, as u know right now boros is w,q,r straight forward, or just ulti spam. What makes boros op, is not rly his ultimate, but his bola, which the cooldown is short and deals alot of damage. Bola is the only thing that actually takes skill on boros besides knowing when to use spell storm. - The new bola takes the same skill to hit, its just that the other bola just brings it to u. Like i said, once u get to know better its not actually that hard, plus the new boros takes more skills than just bola. U need to know when to use eletric or fire. U need to think fast when to toggle, there is so many other ways than this normal boros. People just say, ulti spam or like boros op, and thats why boros is simple. none of his abilities are hard to use, they are all straight forward. spell storm 100% spell resist, bola just pull, e double strike, r just dashes to them dealing lots of damage. Bro u cant argue that boros is simple or not, as this is just an suggestion, i dont mind if hes changed or not, but really current boros is just too simple once ur caught in a bola in a 5v5 team fight, ur pretty much screwed. there is like no chance of surviving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 OMG XELOVEX YOU MAIN BOROS? Ulti spam, just get armor to deal with it, if you cant, too bad. How is bola simple, when mandrake's pull can go over other creeps and pull a group of enemies. I agree he's simple, but changing bola just makes him unable to chase without speed, forcing him to get speed in order to engage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 1) bola deals damage as it stuns them 2) it opens up more builds, because as his passive, slow or burn, can work with other many items more than just critic strike , plus, bola is not too hard, if u just practise, and as bola gets nerfed, spell storm will give him movement speed and more damage, 3) I main my boros, do u think i would want to actually nerf him? I just want more options on how to play him, as u know right now boros is w,q,r straight forward, or just ulti spam. What makes boros op, is not rly his ultimate, but his bola, which the cooldown is short and deals alot of damage. Bola is the only thing that actually takes skill on boros besides knowing when to use spell storm. - The new bola takes the same skill to hit, its just that the other bola just brings it to u. Like i said, once u get to know better its not actually that hard, plus the new boros takes more skills than just bola. U need to know when to use eletric or fire. U need to think fast when to toggle, there is so many other ways than this normal boros. People just say, ulti spam or like boros op, and thats why boros is simple. none of his abilities are hard to use, they are all straight forward. spell storm 100% spell resist, bola just pull, e double strike, r just dashes to them dealing lots of damage. Bro u cant argue that boros is simple or not, as this is just an suggestion, i dont mind if hes changed or not, but really current boros is just too simple once ur caught in a bola in a 5v5 team fight, ur pretty much screwed. there is like no chance of surviving. If you use your bola design, boros has no way to gap close without using ult, so you are essentially making boros' combo into just spellstorm and ult, instead of bola, spellstorm, and ult, since your bola design makes it next to useless, lowers reward for skillful gameplay, and is a big nerf to boros overall. A toggle skill does not add that much interaction, and the toggle will not make or break a fight depending on which toggle you have on, all your toggle would do is make the user of the hero choose which toggle to use, which is not much interaction from the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revision Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 ult is too strong all u have to do is buy executioners then u can go straight int cuz crit applies to all phys dmg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 ult is too strong all u have to do is buy executioners then u can go straight int cuz crit applies to all phys dmg Boros' current ulti can crit if my memory serves me right. I don't get why you think this ulti is OP, I'm pretty sure the damage is actually nerfed, but don't hold me to that I don't play boros often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Boros' current ulti can crit if my memory serves me right. I don't get why you think this ulti is OP, I'm pretty sure the damage is actually nerfed, but don't hold me to that I don't play boros often. The ulti is OP because it procs critic-.- get khali and you get critic dmg+100+(Wep dmg) dmg. Executioners give 100 critic dmg if you dont have any items early game, critic doesnt deal physical dmg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 The ulti is OP because it procs critic-.- get khali and you get critic dmg+100+(Wep dmg) dmg. Executioners give 100 critic dmg if you dont have any items early game, critic doesnt deal physical dmg... First, I did not say crit dealt physical. Second, are you talking about the suggestion's ulti, or the boros currently in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 First, I did not say crit dealt physical. Second, are you talking about the suggestion's ulti, or the boros currently in the game? Im just saying why Boros ulti is OP): im talking about the boros in game and btw whats AD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Boros ult has amazing scaling and can just about cream any non tank in a 1v1. Thus, some people view him as OP. AD is attack damage, a term often used by Riot's 'LoL'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENLORDZ Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Boros ult has amazing scaling and can just about cream any non tank in a 1v1. Thus, some people view him as OP. AD is attack damage, a term often used by Riot's 'LoL'. Balrog's ulti also procs critical hits right? And Boros's ulti not only has normal leech, but also leech from eternity's unique and its a lot): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Balrog's ulti also procs critical hits right? And Boros's ulti not only has normal leech, but also leech from eternity's unique and its a lot): Yep, all these things are correct. Balrog's jump also crits I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelovex Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 nvm forget it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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