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What's up, buds? Some of you may know me, others may not. Doesn't matter. I make this thread out of sheer ignorance, as I have been, and still am, quite removed from both mumble and the inhouse environment.

 

What, exactly, is going on, currently?

 

I see these posts about clans/teams looking to organize and play other clans or teams, and that makes me think everything is going peachy. We never really had many "teams" at all, when I played, outside of when a tournament came up, and people just made temporary squads to partake in the fun.

 

Then I realised, though, upon visiting mumble a week or so ago, that it is contrarily quite desolate - that, in fact, instead of the clans looking for games being a good sign, it seems to be a side-effect of a lack of regular inhouse games now.

 

That saddens me greatly, and I think it is befitting of all of us to try to better the situation.

I say:

Don't limit yourself to playing other clans or teams, but instead play regular inhouses too.

Take the time, sometimes, if the wait isn't too great, to get an inhouse going instead of joining a pub.

Think of the newer players, outside the clans. What are they to do? The regular inhouses are meant to be for them, as well as you, but if you aren't there, the quality suffers, if the game happens at all.

 

All in all, I think we can still save this game, guys, we just have to put in a little bit of work.

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Actually, Yaldi, my laptop is not fixed yet, but I plan on having it done soon.

 

The reason for me being able to write this long post was, quite frankly, that I was out of toiletpaper, and the nearest shop is conveniently located next to the library, so I took a quick detour to write here. I am home now, so the posts will be shorter, writing from xbox.

 

Thanks for the welcome, in any case <3

 

EDIT:Quidditch, I see. Well, that just was not my impression, nor what I have been led to believe. I hope you are right :-)

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There are used to be In House from 5 PM EST to up to 2 AM EST everyday on NA.

 

Now, you are lucky if you can get one legit In House going once a day and maybe twice on the weekend.

 

(Legit means balanced team, draft, and proper mic communication)

 

The reminding mumble users are pushing really hard to get a game going now days.

 

Many people turn to Clan to play casual pub house with clan vs clan or sometimes mumble vs clan that don't mumble.

 

It makes me really sad and angry at the same time that our developers do not seem to care about it.

 

The attempt to revitalize the Mumble of what so called "Let's play pub house" only last for 2 weeks and died out rather quickly.

 

AoS is now become a causal MOBA that people turn back after DotA2 or LoL or at least that's what I think it is Judging by the amount of people that's playing "other" game on mumble.

 

Any attempt to report the current states of the community gets removed with lighting speed as well so this post may be gone in the next few minutes.

 

I understand as a game maker, publicly talking about how the community is turning bad hurts the game but covering up the voice will never solve the problem.

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mumble is dying because of the perception of an abusive and hostile / troll infested environment. That's not a slam, it a commonly held belief of the majority of "pubbers" I play with.

 

Clans, such as Core, are turning to their own chat channels to organize pub-house and in house style games.

 

The problem with elitism is that eventually the little people will wander off, seeking acceptance elsewhere.

 

This is entirely self inflicted by the community that is now dwindling. Perhaps a change of face and a new mode of operation is in order.

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mumble is dying because of the perception of an abusive and hostile / troll infested environment. That's not a slam, it a commonly held belief of the majority of "pubbers" I play with.

 

Clans, such as Core, are turning to their own chat channels to organize pub-house and in house style games.

 

The problem with elitism is that eventually the little people will wander off, seeking acceptance elsewhere.

 

This is entirely self inflicted by the community that is now dwindling. Perhaps a change of face and a new mode of operation is in order.

 

Not even close, Mumble was dieing before core even existed, Mumble is dieing because lack of interest in the game from the Developer. Mumble is dieing because lack of new content. This game is just dieing.

 

Prime example These new units.

 

The tanks were always a place holder for a new type of siege unit. Toss was supposed to get a Warp Prism and Zerg a Swarm Host that would spawn micro creeps with timid life. There are dozes of issues and what not brought up with the developer that he has promised he would change or look at. I.E one example is getting the wep damage off of spell buffer for a more usable stat. But instead out of no where we get these new Creep Mechanics that are complete crap, But at the end of the day as far as every one knows There still just place holders.

 

These new creeps spawn with 3k life, As much life as a tower. They deal 100 wep dmg and there Heroic units. They block raynor ult, they proc zera passive and leo's move speed passive. There to strong. We severely expressed to the developer they were to strong, And all we got was 2 changes, The health was reduced from 4k to 3k, And the AOE damage was taken off the auto attack of the creep.

 

Another example, A majority of people complained about Cyprus doing to much damage and have to low of a cool down on his blink, We asked for a blink nerf "which we got" and a slight base dmg nerf on cyprus ult. What we got was out of no where a 1 second channel time on the ult, and after several weeks of complaints it was reduced to .5 seconds.

 

When eco is on and running Beta games and testing new heroes and just in general adding new content the mumble population explodes in terms of activity, But the problem as i have said above,If eco wants to admit it or not, He has lost interest in this game, He is bored of working on it, And he is tired of dealing with the community, And who can blame him? Every time he is on he just gets boiied at. by a dozen people, Because were all frustrated with the way he deals with the community

 

And your completely misleading with your post. Core team speak server is just as dead if not more dead then the AOS mumble server. In Terms of AOS games. 80% of core players turned to LOL, and why not? LOL is pretty darn close to AOS in terms of game play and hero's but with out all of these little broken mechanics that AOS has. Hardly a hand full of core members are active in playing AOS

 

 

/ no one has scene eco in like 6-7 days, Care to take a guess why? Final Fantasy came out

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And your completely misleading with your post. Core team speak server is just as dead if not more dead then the AOS mumble server. In Terms of AOS games. 80% of core players turned to LOL, and why not? LOL is pretty darn close to AOS in terms of game play and hero's but with out all of these little broken mechanics that AOS has. Hardly a hand full of core members are active in playing AOS

 

 

 

Can confirm, AOS on Teamspeak is almost entirely dead. Very few core members left...

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Can confirm, AOS on Teamspeak is almost entirely dead. Very few core members left...

The game falling off is a global issue, not just from jerks running off people on mumble XD

 

I was a little harsh vs eco, above But i know he wears big boy pants.

 

This game it still extremely impressive, And i and others know he is busy teaching and lets be honest. Who wants to spend all of there free time on one project. We also know eco isnt backed by some Billion dollar company, So to compare AOS to the other games is a little un fair.

 

But something needs to be done. It would be sad to see this game die completely after i invested so much time into playing it

 

Pub games are just ridiculously boring. With no real matchmaking system Its pretty much a coin flip if you win or lose. The only fun games are in houses. But we get MAYBE 1 a day. And normally that ih is pretty bad quality. The player base has fallen off and there hasent been a huge surge to replace the decent players that left. Hell the only reason i look forward to the tourney is cause i will be playing with friends and a handful of the games will be actually decent games. If i take my group of friends and play a pub well. its not even challenging

 

Aeon of Storms has limitations due to the SC2 engine and due to it pretty much being a 1 man show with the developer. It cant compete with DOTA or LOL. Mumble only survives because the players are able to talk directly to the developer and have some what of an influence on the game. This is why when we have beta test for a new hero or game changing mechanics mumble normally explodes in activity. This is why when we get 0 new content for extended period of time and Eco is mia for a while the game falls off and people stop logging on. We some how mange to ignore and put aside the numerous small broken mechanics and short comings. Because testing and being apart of the creative process for the games future is just fun.

 

As long as eco is consistent with his updates and doesn't go mia for extended periods of time. And he can make a stronger commitment to the community then we have scene this past year. The game should pick up. If not your going to see people pick up LOL or DOTA then realize how much superior those games are and not come back

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The number of competent players have dwindled considerably thus IH these days is a joke.

 

If you group up with 1-2 of your competent player friends, pub games are entertaining at best and not challenging.

 

Pubbing alone is the way to go, but comes with price of frustration and incompetency of general population players.

 

Don't know how long I can keep this up - I enjoy AOS but lately no IH (fun IH) has been a disappointment.

 

Downloaded DOTA 2 and LOL, but have not started playing them yet.

 

GG

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Has anyone considered that updating to HotS could rekindle a lot of interest in this game? Also pubs recently have been fantastic. I personally never made the leap onto mumble, but mainly because a lot of the players that I know from here and from pubs that are on mumble come off as elitist. Everyone knows the other and many of them aren't particularly welcoming into the established cliques, with little patience for new players to adapt to the ih style of gameplay. There are exceptions of course.

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Has anyone considered that updating to HotS could rekindle a lot of interest in this game? Also pubs recently have been fantastic. I personally never made the leap onto mumble, but mainly because a lot of the players that I know from here and from pubs that are on mumble come off as elitist. Everyone knows the other and many of them aren't particularly welcoming into the established cliques, with little patience for new players to adapt to the ih style of gameplay. There are exceptions of course.

 

im not an elitist, if anything im simply shap at the game

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Eco doesn't want to add HOTS content because he is worried he will lose a large part of his player base, people who dont wana spend the 40$ to continue playing an updated version of aos when they can play LOL for free.

 

Also mumble has its jerks like any community but generally mumble is real accepting to new members. And guarantee them a spot in the games we play. I my self always sit out so new players can play. But the main issue is once more the lack of ih's New players get on thinking we ih 24/ 7 but in reality we are luck to get 2 games a night. Majority of the people on mumble would rather pub, play different games. Or dodge the in house all together due to what they consider low quality of players. So new player logs on sits in channel for 2+ hours waiting on an ih Most of the mumblers dont mind sitting chilling waiting for 2+ hours for an ih because we have all become pretty close friends and enjoy each others company and shoot the shap. But new players are well new and dont know the people in the channel so they are kinda quiet not joining in the conversation. and then leave and wont come back.

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