Shadow is STILL OP

[SickofOP]

Shadow is debately the easiest hero of all of them to use, it's a simple 2 click hero. It's not that fact that he's easy to use that's annoying, it's the fact that he bounces around SO much you can't click him at all AND his ability to tower dive is ridiculous.

 

Last game I just played a few minutes ago, I played as Raynor, I locked on, silenced him and then used my ulti on him BEFORE he even reaches me. Here's the problem, becuase of Raynor's ulti, you have to be looking in the same direction at your target for a period of time before it shoots. Guess what happened? As I'm locking on, he's bouncing around and I'm unable to use it on him, therefore dying.

 

The other issue with shadow, tower diving without diving. Even after Shadow was nerfed, he still can very easily rush into tower while you're near it for protection and kill you, and escape alive. The towers are useless when it comes to him, he can vortex out and not take but one hit from the tower. Not only this, but if you're an intel hero whatsoever, you're going to be 3-6 hit no matter what the entire game. Even as Micro, with the best armor, 4.6k health, barbed plating to his 2k health he still with shadowmourne can take you down easily. What's the point of a tank if he can't withstand the hits?

 

I enjoy this game, especially since it's being updated weekly, but every game someone is shadow, and it takes the fun element out of the game knowing he can do these things.

 

My suggestion for the bouncing around and to make it easier to click on him is to make him bigger. Currently he's between the size of a zealot and a stalker. Make him more the size of a hydra as far as width goes. Shadow doesn't have to be skinny, or even be the size of micro when he's at level 18. This needs fixed!

[TaxHaven]

Hes balanced for ih stop qqing for pubs

[zeeeend]

Making him bigger lol! gg on this lets make him the size of aeon. That why we dont need to change the steppings strikes.

 

If you comboed the shadow and he didn´t die he was to fed. Wait you say you used it on him before he reaches you, then complain that he was bouncing around and you were unable to use it how ? You already cast it so unless you were taserd/stunknife/vortex/ultied (he was silence so this couldn't happen) you would have shot him

 

ps* im being mean because you make no sense, i do agree with shadow being op but look at the topics about that

[Muto]

While there is some balance issues with his stepping strikes, I wouldn't go nearly as far as saying he's OP. The only reason Shadow does well in pubs is because players feed him stupidly and can't group up. Just as with zeratul, a shadow can be countered fairly easily by good team positioning/composition as long as he's not fed to absurd levels.

 

To balance the game based on the pub scene would be as absurd as if blizzard balanced ladder based on bronze league.

[Firnefex]

To balance the game based on the pub scene would be as absurd as if blizzard balanced ladder based on bronze league.

To balance the game only based on the IH scene would be even more absurd as AoS IHs are only 1% of the game.

Therefore you have to look at both!

[Adamantium]

I've seen shadow wreck both pub and IH, thus I believe shadow is OP whether its a pub or IH. People need to stop acting like IH is always > pub game. Like if someone gives an example which occurred in a pub, some just immediately strike the argument down as invalid. Foolishness.

 

Kay

Thanx

Biy.

[Jaysi]

I've seen shadow wreck both pub and IH, thus I believe shadow is OP whether its a pub or IH. People need to stop acting like IH is always > pub game. Like if someone gives an example which occurred in a pub, some just immediately strike the argument down as invalid. Foolishness.

 

Kay

Thanx

Biy.

 

I agree. Too much of this, "I IH, you don't, therefore my opinion> yours"

 

But Ecko said he'd look into tweaking the stepping strikes when he gets time. Problem is he is too hard to CC.

[residente]

if you want to increase shadows size to make it easier to aim you better just increase the hitbox(?)

[Skydie]

 

#dedication

 

User was banned for this post.

[Ironsights]

Been said over and over...most carries are hugely op in pubs.

 

Been playing leo a lot lately. That's a real hoot, especially since with very minor effort he can wreck most shadows.

[mynhauzen]

Shadow is a no 2 buttons. It requires at least 3, which is similar to most aa. Most of the shadows get several active items, which makes him at least 5 button hero.

[zeeeend]

Buttons without target dont count as buttons. So its just 2 vortex and ulti, shade can count as a half depending on useage. I.e dropping rebounder or jumping cow wall makes it count

[Moo]

Yeah, just kill stepping strikes and I will be happy with shadow, they cause so many problems, especially when one of the people is slowing down the game for everyone else, which means he is literally impossible to click unless you just random spam click near him.

[Firnefex]

Buttons without target dont count as buttons. So its just 2 vortex and ulti, shade can count as a half depending on useage. I.e dropping rebounder or jumping cow wall makes it count

Lol, they are still buttons. Maybe they aren't that skillful to activate, but way more than passives!

[TaxHaven]

LOL skydie gets banned just for that?

[Moo]

LOL skydie gets banned just for that?

That is what I was thinking when I saw it. It doesn't even have bad words, or inappropriate jokes, it was just a hit-and-run troll. o.o

[Doug]

I don't think shadow is OP, just broken. I agree stepping strikes is the problem, because is breaks a fundamental of moba's which is clicking on someone. There is no skill in that, its just random luck if u click on the guy. But that is the only prob with him. People can pub stomp with almost any aa carry these days, shadow just has stepping strikes which puts him a bit over other aa's right now. And raynor is prob the worst person to go against shadow ever right now consider he soo squish even for INT chars and his silence really doesn't help too much if its 1v1 even with tower so i feel ur pain bro.

[Moo]

I don't think shadow is OP, just broken. I agree stepping strikes is the problem, because is breaks a fundamental of moba's which is clicking on someone. There is no skill in that, its just random luck if u click on the guy. But that is the only prob with him. People can pub stomp with almost any aa carry these days, shadow just has stepping strikes which puts him a bit over other aa's right now. And raynor is prob the worst person to go against shadow ever right now consider he soo squish even for INT chars and his silence really doesn't help too much if its 1v1 even with tower so i feel ur pain bro.

Psh justicar is worst vs shadow, I got 3 shot by a shadow once. :P (said shadow might have possibly been around 15-0, just a little bit)

[MOTHER]

I don't think shadow is OP, just broken. I agree stepping strikes is the problem, because is breaks a fundamental of moba's which is clicking on someone. There is no skill in that, its just random luck if u click on the guy. But that is the only prob with him. People can pub stomp with almost any aa carry these days, shadow just has stepping strikes which puts him a bit over other aa's right now. And raynor is prob the worst person to go against shadow ever right now consider he soo squish even for INT chars and his silence really doesn't help too much if its 1v1 even with tower so i feel ur pain bro.

Agreed.

[residente]

Psh justicar is worst vs shadow, I got 3 shot by a shadow once. :P (said shadow might have possibly been around 15-0, just a little bit)

 

I think a good Jusficar build can wreck any meleee agi hero.

[Moo]

 

 

I think a good Jusficar build can wreck any meleee agi hero.

I was trolling. The game where I got wrecked by shadow, said shadow had six items before I had three, and his endgame score was like 37-2 or something retarded. Even as justicar, there isn't much to do by that point, especially considering he out-leached my ult+barbed with a Darwin's.