Manwich Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 5v2 Today and a Darpa (on the 2 man team) was leaching enough to sustain in 4v1 team fights, and was wrecking completely vs a shadow, queen, virgil and bio. He was leaching back all the damage he was taking. He had no lifesteal items. The only possible leach he could have had was the talent. How is this balanced? Why are lifesteal items even in the game? I feel like the talent needs a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeeend Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Was the darpa lvl 18 and you lvl 12 ? The leaver bonus got him to reach full gear pretty fast. At which time he does 500 dmg each hit easily killing all of you. Shadow queen vergil and bio seems like 4 v 2. Did you try vortex, queen ultralisk, bio ulti + bio uses taser, vergil q + ulti, shadow with stunknife Or did you all just run about getting killed ? Because he can't outleach burst dmg especially if stunned or silenced/swordbreakerd ( is swordbreakerd a word ?, no i think not because the item is WORTHLESS!) While leach items are pretty neglected right now i can't imagine you even tried to work as a team or get counter items. So i blame your team and leaver bonus. Nothing wrong with a hardcarry owning at full gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwich Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 We were all max level. We might have all been 1-1.5 items from fully built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANARCHY Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 replay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwich Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 And I appreciate you blindly blaming poor teamwork in a game you didn't see. Thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwich Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I don't even know how to post a replay. I don't care to either. Do you need to see the replay to believe what I'm saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firnefex Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I don't even know how to post a replay. I don't care to either. Do you need to see the replay to believe what I'm saying? Ähm...if you say there were teamwork and he had no Lifesteal besides Talent, all at max lvl, nearly with items, then yes, you need to show us the replay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchacker Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 It is literally impossible if someone has no leech items (only the talent) to leech back all the hp in a 4v2 situation, the leech talent only gives 6% leech. So even if you have 500 attack (assuming the enemy you are leeching off has 50% resist) you will only be leeching 15 hp per attack. Couple this with the fact that you can buy khali blade and reduce that small amount of leech even further. 15 - 60% is 6 hp per attack. The amount he would have been leeching would be close to nothing. I think in this case you either didn't see that he did have some kind of leech in his build, or your team just wasn't as good as the 2 people who were left. Anyway if leech is giving you any trouble get one of your aa heros to get a khali blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwich Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 He had an organic carapace. The bottom line is, no one gets any lifesteal items int his game anymore. Please watch you games. I'm talking about a public game here where 1 stacked darpa with a huge leaver bonus was tanking 3 casters. It's not a big deal anymore. You guys made me see the error of my thoughts. Darpas should be able to do exactly what this guy did to us. Leaver bonus is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 So in a 4vs1 team fight, all 4 of you have no CC skill that can slow or make Darpa unable to attack for a few seconds? It sounds like a completely fail on your part. Please provide replay and we will be able to assist you more; for now, without further useful information, you don't have enough of support to your claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsights Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 no swordbreaker, no executioners axe, little to no team work, leavers buff'd and likely fed darpa wins when out numbered. sounds legit, honestly. Darpa using darwins? Get an axe Darpa has organic? good, his attack is now weaker. Hit him with a sowrd breaker and pyre. Atom smasher could be a nice touch too. post the replay and you can get real help and advice, or by all means continue insisting that balance is why you lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwich Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I actually did have sword breaker, I had a taser too so he couldn't leap out. I regret starting this post, because I don't actually care anymore. We all have access to AA hereos, and I play plenty of OP heroes myself. It's not that big a deal. Yes, playing in public games I run the risk of having bad partners that cannot play their heroes effectively. I've already said it was 3 casters; our shadow was our only AA and he was usually nowhere to be found. I'm talking about 1 darpa surving spells vs 3 casters. Please stop using words like Pyre. Please stop responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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