pchacker Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Isomorphic cryostat. Cost: 3400 +30Str +18% Spell resist [unique] Your attacks deal Spell Damage equal to 6% of your target's Missing Health (deals a maximum of 125 Spell Damage against non-heroic units). (Image shamelessly stolen from dota) Components: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsthatguy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I feel this item would work well with my shadow build :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 This with pyre, on a 3 tass build would be sick! Would work with pyre also. Frozensoul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsthatguy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 It would be OP if it stacked with Pyre Otherwise you can get 12% Target's Current Health. With Argus and Yamato you can get it up to 18%. AA Raynor be good then too as with deathmark it could be 24% Target's Current Health and you could almost 5 shot them with AA if your fast attack. Thats almost like a SFG ever hit :P if you take out that 400 addition damage, but still :P -edit- Oh it is Missing Health. Hmmmm I take back the OP part xD. But i feel i'd prefer this item over Pyre just for the tanky stats since i like to go tanky shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiguy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 This is actually slightly worse than pyre because it's possible to hit an enemy at 100% hp for a full 6% of max(his current hp int his case) hp damage with pyre while it's impossible to hit an enemy at 0% hp for 6% of his max hp(6% of 100% missing hp) in damage. Basically, it's easier to take advantage of high pyre damage with a high hp enemy as you can land more hits than a low hp enemy. To give an example on a resistless unit with 1000 hp vs a hero with 100 physical damage and either of these items. I assume pyre/cryostat damage is calculated before they receive physical damage. With Pyre: Hit 1: 100+60 damage, 840 hp remaining Hit 2: 100+50 damage, 690 hp remaining Hit 3: 100+41 damage, 549 hp remaining Hit 4: 100+33 damage, 416 hp remaining Hit 5: 100+25 damage, 291 hp remaining Hit 6: 100+17 damage, 174 hp remaining Hit 7: 100+10 damage, 64 hp remaining Hit 8: 100+4 damage, 0 hp remaining Pyre damage was a total of 240 damage over 8 hits for an average of 30 damage per hit With Cryostat: Hit 1: 100+0 damage, 900 hp remaining Hit 2: 100+6 damage, 794 hp remaining Hit 3: 100+12 damage, 682 hp remaining Hit 4: 100+19 damage, 563 hp remaining Hit 5: 100+26 damage, 437 hp remaining Hit 6: 100+34 damage, 303 hp remaining Hit 7: 100+42 damage, 161 hp remaining Hit 8: 100+50 damage, 11 hp remaining Hit 9: 100+59 damage, 0 hp remaining Cryostat total damage was 248 damage over 9 hits for 27.5 damage per hit. Do note that the difference increases when enemies have more resistance as they stay at higher hp for longer periods.. Then again, maybe not. @Itsthatguy No, actually it just deals 6% of max hp per hit if you have both items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I feel this item would work well with my shadow build :P dude flob shadow Doom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 dude flob shadow Nova is where it's at, first game with her yesterday got more creep kills than in all other games this week combined. Lethal Barb is the shap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozensoul Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Very sweet item indeed, but with the pyre it would be too poverfull, it could be a solution with a second unique: if you have Isomorphic pyre the % damage of both item is reduce to 5%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchacker Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Maybe.... But keep in mind that if you had both it would only be 1% better than the old pyre, yet cost more than twice as much, and take up 2 slots as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsthatguy Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Nova is where it's at, first game with her yesterday got more creep kills than in all other games this week combined. Lethal Barb is the shap. Well i build a fairly tanky Nova too. :P [With high damage of course too, just not as tanky as my shadow build :P] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozensoul Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Lest's go! if we stay still these item will never be alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midknight Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 How about modify it so that it will take either Pyre bonus or Cryostat bonus, whichever is higher? Again, presuming 1000 HP, 100 damage, and no resist: Hit 1: 100 + (60 or 0), 840 Hit 2: 100 + (50 or 9), 690 Hit 3: 100 + (41 or 18), 549 Hit 4: 100 + (33 or 27), 416 Hit 5: 100 + (25 or 35), 281 hp remaining Hit 6: 100 + 43, 138 hp remaining Hit 7: 100 + 51, 13 overkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchacker Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 How about modify it so that it will take either Pyre bonus or Cryostat bonus, whichever is higher? Again, presuming 1000 HP, 100 damage, and no resist: Hit 1: 100 + (60 or 0), 840 Hit 2: 100 + (50 or 9), 690 Hit 3: 100 + (41 or 18), 549 Hit 4: 100 + (33 or 27), 416 Hit 5: 100 + (25 or 35), 281 hp remaining Hit 6: 100 + 43, 138 hp remaining Hit 7: 100 + 51, 13 overkill Well you could do that, but the purpose of this was to have at least as close to the original damage of pyre possible (when using both pyre and cryostat), but with taking 2 item slots and higher mineral amount as the drawback. So I guess ideally, both pyre and cryostat would be 5% current and missing hp respectively. I think the amount gained by adding the cryostat or pyre after you already have one wouldn't be worth it. Edit: Im actually hoping that the devs will consider this idea, as they said they would give extra aa options in the next patches in the form of new items, since leech and crit got nerfed as a result of the blizzard patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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