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Lets talk about making LZ fun again?


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So lets talk first about the hero's that can escape solace

 

Shaddow

Grunty

Vorpal

StarScream

Darpa

Micro

Unix

Brine

Bio

 

Usually escape solace

 

Jackson (warpshard)

and who ever else usually gets one

 

Now this doesn't worry me much, what does is the fact that he can't catch people in the first place.

 

Heroes that can usually out run or at least keep him away far enough so they can't get solaced in time. Many times it's not the fact that they have a base run speed over LZ's solace it's just the normal items they build for their heros.

 

Nova

Shad

Summers

Zergling

Cow

Brine

Micro

Darpa

Grunty (water)

Vorpal

Rancor (close depends on talents/TPI)

 

 

Now I may have forgot some, but I think we get the point.

 

LZ's solace is MOST useful at low levels's however his overdrive doesn't give him enough movement speed to catch anyone really at level 1-2

 

What i'm asking for is a BUFF to his move speed on overdrive by 10-15 % so it's actually useful since all his other skills are very poor early game anyways.

 

Solace does almost no damage along with the tenacious fury.

 

I would LOVE to see his E giving him a little bit of spell damage per stack as well as wep speed say 5 spell dammage stacking each hit up to 4 stacks or something. I mean Brine does huge burst, Cain gets lots of spell damage, and just about every other hero has something but LZ has nothing at all early game. The items make LZ but usually by the time you get all the items you need the game is over.

 

 

So lets talk?

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LZ is a solid tank with good DPS options and the ability to shrug off debuffs while running like a mad man...

 

hes fine really. Soemtimes situational, but fine. I enjoy playing lord zyrkhan with some frequency, and have seldom found myself thinking he is underpowered.

 

I am of the mindset 'leave well enough alone'. If they start tinkering with him, god only knows what will happen to the poor zealot.

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When exactly did you consider LZ fun? Since your problem is with the current solace being too easy to escape from, it'd be weird that you considered the older version of the skill more fun. The old solace, his ulti, was even more escapable with destroyable walls(immortals) and a stationary position.

 

I could understand wanting Blinkstorm and old Overdrive back, but I think that his current immortal solace is pretty nice.

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Seeing as no one said anything below your post about changing LZ your post is completely irrelevant. I merely stated that I liked the idea. Never said it should be implemented.

 

Wasn't directed at you, but just making sure that people understood that my post was sarcasm. An "E" change to LZ could be interesting, and might be worthy of a test, but overall LZ is totally fine.

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... It's half-intentional that LZ's W [immortal Solace] can let people go if you try and pull them out also; but I must say that his old Q/W (Overdrive, Blinkstorm) were more fun-- his current ability kit is incredibly potent and powerful as it is; I see no need to change it.

 

Frankly I would love to see a blink added to his Ulti; actually; it would make him more fun in my opinion-- and yet it wouldn't change him too much otherwise.

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LZ seems fine as is to me with the exception that I saw a Cain running one down while it was using lv 4 overdrive, Cain had phantom menace and masamune for run speed and appeared faster than LZ in maxed Q (could attack, catch up, attack, until LZ's overdrive expired and he died).

 

LZ is good, but his overdrive should be faster and could be without making him unfair.

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I do agree with the fact that LZ's ring is just fine but his Q movement speed is to slow for all the items that are out there. besides spell buffer which isnt needed any more cause of items like e mantle. there is no intel or Str item with movement speed. that does need an increase to speed or a STR item with decent speed on it. great example why. masterlaw was vs me playing cain. he said he had both talents for movement speed and he had masamune. a couple times either he was attacking me or attacking an ally and i tried to fight. i started to lose and hit sprint to get away, he was able to keep up with me without fail. and by the time my sprint ran out he casted his Q or was still with me and just shot me and got me slowed. other heros like brine speed build, shadow, zera both using the agility item with the 18% speed boost on it, and nova with nothing but her sprint can all keep up with lz or even out run him.

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Want to have fun with lz in pub? Go wep speed + wep dmg in offense, spell resist + armour + zeal in defense and swiftness in utility.

Proceed as follows:

 

Buckler

Leeching saber + STR pot

Lightning rod

Masamune

SHC

blah blah blah

 

When you obtain the rod you should be able to run into heroes and just rape them in solace. Make sure to max E first.

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