jamescossey Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 if someone has barb plating and the medic ultimates them while and auto attack hero is attacking them, should it not still reflect damage? barb is suppose to reflect damage before midigation and i thought his ultimate was a type of midigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think damage mitigation and invulnerability are 2 separate systems. Im not sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legomancer Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 The barbed will not proc because the ulted unit is not taking damage so the system does not roll for damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 No damage is taken; therefore, no damage is reflected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoWaterJustIce Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Im not sure, because i know that you can still leech off of a target that is has been ultied by medic so it might be possible that barbed will deal dmg to attackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firnefex Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 What? I've never seen my hero leeching from her ultied target. It would also be stupid if it worked...so I hope its a strange bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsights Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 leech and barbed both deal their "Daamge" pre-mitigation Medci ulti is 100% mitigation, but since damage is dealt pre mitigation, the items still work. OR so I believe. But i know that I know little, so... I will just assume I am right until someone smarter corrects me on this one. Keithdehun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliwan Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Leech appears to be based on incoming damage to your target but caps out on their maximum health. If you attack with a Machete and no other leech and 500 Attack Damage to one of your own creeps that presently has about 50 health, your leech box says 2. So I think that leech happens before mitigation, but you can't leech more damage than you could actually do before mitigation (and I know that that didn't make much sense, I'm sorta out of it right now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 if what eliwan says, you leech before midigation that would be kinda bs, because leech should be based of the damage you actually do. ie, if someone has enough physical resist to reduce 500 physical damage down to 100, and they only have 20% leech they should only heal for 20. leech is already op as is on auto attack heros which good damage. almost all agility heros max attack speed using masamune. you can already out leech barb when using darwin might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qlx Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Well, try it. Go for Maar, Geneva and Hero XX. Buy 6 x Argus On maar, no items on Hero XX & Geneva. Then Ulti and let the Maar cast Sap, with his hp, say... 4/5 gone. Or just let a dev answer this :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firnefex Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You need 3 players willing to test that. And why hero X, why not just ulti yourself with Geneva? Well, can you please simply say what happens then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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