SKyExiaLinoz Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 i think that a lot of people missis the old and storm caster zealot!, me too the idea was very nice but why not bring him back from the grave with a new form or another hero, even better rework the actual LZ to the past LZ cool and jumping!! :D Eliwan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 tbh LZ's transformation has been by far the worst rework they could ever make. btch pls, compare that gay sprint with the storm sprint, or that gay ring with the immortals ring, pfft i miss that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 The charges are too similar and so is immortal solace for that to be possible. Oh and Cyprus, Biotron, Maar reworks are much worse. SKyExiaLinoz and Baggins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKyExiaLinoz Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 The charges are too similar and so is immortal solace for that to be possible. Oh and Cyprus, Biotron, Maar reworks are much worse. boros even changed, i rememeber when his ss was a hp shield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliwan Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ehh, I like the new Cyprus more than Multi-shot Cyprus personally; but I would really like to see Multi-Shot return on a -normal- model Stalker hero-- because guess what? We already have a normal-looking Roach hero V: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKyExiaLinoz Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ehh, I like the new Cyprus more than Multi-shot Cyprus personally; but I would really like to see Multi-Shot return on a -normal- model Stalker hero-- because guess what? We already have a normal-looking Roach hero V: and LZ just a little bigger, tauren too well hes amorph by its won but it still as the original model same as darpa!!why not put the model of night to die from the reaper with bigger jetpacks and cool guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 The charges are too similar and so is immortal solace for that to be possible. Oh and Cyprus, Biotron, Maar reworks are much worse. well, those are also bad, but the madness of old LZ cant compare with any other hero, he was so damn crazy and nice, I also loved that cyprus stealing attack speed with his ult, and maar using gravity powers, but at least they still have some love, lz is a little bit boring to play, just run and trap ppl, with old lz you could jump and jump and jump, and also run and trap ppl but with epileptic storms and stuff Ehh, I like the new Cyprus more than Multi-shot Cyprus personally; but I would really like to see Multi-Shot return on a -normal- model Stalker hero-- because guess what? We already have a normal-looking Roach hero V: yeh, we have normal and dark zealot, why we couldnt have also a normal stalker? he could have photom cannon attack animation like old cyprus, or just the normal lassers, like one of the STD units (a red stalker who attack 3 targets, total of 9 lasers) i guess called phantom SKyExiaLinoz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKyExiaLinoz Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 well, those are also bad, but the madness of old LZ cant compare with any other hero, he was so damn crazy and nice, I also loved that cyprus stealing attack speed with his ult, and maar using gravity powers, but at least they still have some love, lz is a little bit boring to play, just run and trap ppl, with old lz you could jump and jump and jump, and also run and trap ppl but with epileptic storms and stuff yeh, we have normal and dark zealot, why we couldnt have also a normal stalker? he could have photom cannon attack animation like old cyprus, or just the normal lassers, like one of the STD units (a red stalker who attack 3 targets, total of 9 lasers) i guess called phantom tottally agree with all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiguy Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 tbh LZ's transformation has been by far the worst rework they could ever make. btch pls, compare that gay sprint with the storm sprint, or that gay ring with the immortals ring, pfft i miss that I prefer the new immortal solace to the old one since that was too easy to escape from(especially in the versions with no spell immunity), but I do miss old Blinkstorm and Overdrive. Although, rather than replace current LZ's skill set, I think itd be better to just create a new hero altogether. Same for all the other heroes like MAAR and Cyp. P.S Old LZ couldn't jump and jump and jump anymore when they nerfed the cool down to like 20 seconds. That was a sad time, when timescale kept messing with his balance and got him overnerfed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I do agree the old Lz was very nice and fun to play. But i have to say they did a very good job changing him to an actual tank hero. they should make a new hero with his old abililties. no other tank can truely be said can save a team from a wipe like LZ's ultimate it is by far the best team buff in the game. 1k shields to an ally is alot. the problem is LZ is so underplayed because of mentioned in an above post he is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 P.S Old LZ couldn't jump and jump and jump anymore when they nerfed the cool down to like 20 seconds. That was a sad time, when timescale kept messing with his balance and got him overnerfed. I didn't remember that the cd was so long, but I liked using a TS build with the TS boots, early Elixir and Sunflare Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomulf Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Just change his charge to make storms as well ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowFlame Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 There has been many changes to the game that would make these heros overpowered as they were. The old cyprus would be a joke in this game, do you remember his ult.? Also, ranged carries would rape the old lz... Imagine him stuck in his immortals while getting shot by nova. Im not trying to shoot down these ideas, but its not as though this would simply be taking new heros back. Big changes would have to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 ^ lol old lz > nova Wrath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 There has been many changes to the game that would make these heros overpowered as they were. The old cyprus would be a joke in this game, do you remember his ult.? Also, ranged carries would rape the old lz... Imagine him stuck in his immortals while getting shot by nova. Im not trying to shoot down these ideas, but its not as though this would simply be taking new heros back. Big changes would have to be made. Old LZ's mobility coupled with his immortal solace and huge spell damage make him perfect for trapping ranged carries and squashing them like bugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Old LZ's mobility coupled with his immortal solace and huge spell damage make him perfect for trapping ranged carries and squashing them like bugs. You should have ended that with "like the bugs THEY ARE." But, I would enjoy heroes that are like the old versions of some of the mentioned hereos, LZ did not have the biggest change by far, that either goes to cyprus or DARPA (he was my favorite before being changed). Old cyprus was fun, just slightly OP late game, LZ was good, but with WS/Hadron or any early game cloak item, he would be a joke until later. I guess if anyone wanted to, they could create suggestions for these heroes to be remade into new ones, I mean, why not? residente 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKyExiaLinoz Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 You should have ended that with "like the bugs THEY ARE." But, I would enjoy heroes that are like the old versions of some of the mentioned hereos, LZ did not have the biggest change by far, that either goes to cyprus or DARPA (he was my favorite before being changed). Old cyprus was fun, just slightly OP late game, LZ was good, but with WS/Hadron or any early game cloak item, he would be a joke until later. I guess if anyone wanted to, they could create suggestions for these heroes to be remade into new ones, I mean, why not? im actually working for a hero suggest... Fenix.Praetor that would be like our old LZ with the ult a little changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qlx Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I like him a lot, don't know about the older version tho. Played him against a Darpa (Inh but still a nub :p) with Warpshard & taser. Quite funny to see him die in seconds :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I like him a lot, don't know about the older version tho. Played him against a Darpa (Inh but still a nub :p) with Warpshard & taser. Quite funny to see him die in seconds :) No offense but that Darpa was completely n00b. BHM as first item seems stupid for me, you waste 4600 and you will have 158 damage, you can buy just ocelot and use the other 2600 for more useful things. That Darpa couldnt carry a shap because of his items, and his teammates, Rancor with the 3 stacking items, kerrigan with 0 dps, Vorpal disturbing their own mates, and Spooky with Justicar as first time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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