jamescossey Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 so to counter a tank u get pyre, to counter a spell caster you get mossberg, to counter an auto attack hero u get, barb+axe+shrapnel+emantle+shadowmoune+carapace (to have enough hp to live). sounds fair FruitNinja, Azrael and doxthefox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDancer Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 You always get pyre, because it's one of best items. Also you always get taser. Seems legit now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sTeveN Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 okay... to counter a tank u must be a dps, meaning that the tank needs to get [barb+axe+shrapnel+emantle+shadowmoune+carapace (to have enough hp to live)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliwan Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 See, you don't need all of that. Â Barbed + Carapace is enough to survive. Mantle doesn't stop them-- it just gets them off your back so you can run away. Shrapnel is what you need to kill them in 2v1 or something. Shadowmourne? SURE WHY NOT THEY'RE DPS Â But really imo you just need Barbed, Carapace, and Shadowmourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Or Emantle and a nice burst dmg ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TungVu Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 No to counter an aa hero u just need tons of dmg, get in their face and murder them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayn Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 have to agree. nothing feels better than one-shotting a pub-squishie-shadow with cyp xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 so to counter a tank u get pyre, to counter a spell caster you get mossberg, to counter an auto attack hero u get, barb+axe+shrapnel+emantle+shadowmoune+carapace (to have enough hp to live). sounds fair If ur team is good, all you need is shrapnel if ur team is decent, shrapnel and axe if ur team is regular, shrapnel, axe and shadowmourne if ur team is bad, srhapnel, axe, shadowmourne and barb if ur team is horrible shrapnel, axe, shadowmourne, barb and carapace if ur team is flobing feed shap, -surrender EterNity, VasyaKot and Qlx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyD Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Â If ur team is good, all you need is shrapnel if ur team is decent, shrapnel and axe if ur team is regular, shrapnel, axe and shadowmourne if ur team is bad, srhapnel, axe, shadowmourne and barb if ur team is horrible shrapnel, axe, shadowmourne, barb and carapace if ur team is flobing feed shap, -surrender This is actually extremely accurate lmao. Sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoWaterJustIce Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 The real counter to aa heros are burst casters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 You only need teamwork to counter EVERYTHING. Â That's totally unfair IMO. Â We should re-balance the game so only teamwork itself cannot win the game! doxthefox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midknight Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Teamwork, Common Sense, and Skill. Any given team will only possess two of the three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyresis Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Teamwork, Common Sense, and Skill. Any given team will only possess two of the three. Any given pub team contains 0 of the three. Azrael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EterNity Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Any given pub team contains 0 of the three. Â So who wins the game!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 So who wins the game!? The one with the lesser stupity level... Qlx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyresis Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I just played 3 games in a row as zera where we wer behind in kills by about 15-20, but we had 4 more towers than our opponents. They were completely convinced they were winning until they lost due to artifact destruction with a kill score of 23-37 for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 killing the other teams kinda pointless if you dont push when their dead :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsights Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 it is so hard to convince your average pubber that killing towers is more important than killing heroes... akanna, Sciifighter, Phyresis and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostEU Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 So true Ironsights. Most people in pubs are all about maintaining a high KDR and getting last hits on heroes or raging when they don't. Not helping when they can. Â Its surprising how many games you can win even having double the deaths to kills because your team is actively pushing towers and trying to win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescossey Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 The real counter to aa heros are burst casters  i only wish that was true, i was in a game where they had a shadow and vespus. i was raynor. a couple times on both of them this happened. they were attacking creep i shot silent shot and got one of them to about 25% hp, right after the silent shot i clicked my ulti shot and they were back to full health before my ulti casted. ive done some of the same stuff using dustin brawler. burst casters cant kill anyone if they are leeching off something. now if axe would proc off spells that would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muto Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 For most pugs, this almost always the case. However, if you get a solid team getting Shrapnel cloak will be enough to allow AA heroes to be bursted down before they are a serious threat.  If ur team is good, all you need is shrapnel if ur team is decent, shrapnel and axe if ur team is regular, shrapnel, axe and shadowmourne if ur team is bad, srhapnel, axe, shadowmourne and barb if ur team is horrible shrapnel, axe, shadowmourne, barb and carapace if ur team is flobing feed shap, -surrender  Azrael nailed it with that post right there. Burst heroes and stuns are also a pretty solid way to beat AA heroes. A good Rancor will beat a good Shadow every time, especially with the ability to scan through his ultimate.  it is so hard to convince your average pubber that killing towers is more important than killing heroes...  I feel you on that one. I have seen so many players that are great a killing people, but never push towers. Usually they are playing shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doxthefox Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 An aa hero walks into a bar, there was no counter. Rem and TungVu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciifighter Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 This would be awesome. Think about - +30 int - 5 energy regen Unique skill: - every spell u hit ampliefis a debuff lowering the lifesteal of the amplified target by 80% (This skill is the same like axe, so it doenst double or whatever) -> so u cant stack both items Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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