Gitch Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 In most pubs these days everyone rushes aeon. This results in some people dying and then leaving, therefore ruining the game for all. This makes pubs a joke at the moment, is this getting changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neogeo Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 i like this early fights at aeon area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleTits Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 and why should we be concerned with how quickly an incoherent mess falls apart... you can't hold the game dev responsible for individual failures at teamwork and skill/dedication if anything be happy they rage-quit early instead of 5 minutes later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitch Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Some people will rush aeon and if they die or the other team gets the kill then they will quit. From my experience quitting is way worse than usual and it's for this reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lOvOl Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Yes this is stupid right now for the reasons you say. Just have Aeon spawn at 5 minutes. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitNinja Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 I love this. People always rush to kill my Tassadar clone when I scout them out, and they often waste things like haste and escape moves to catch up. Then my team comes and takes aeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKCO Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Bosses will be modified in some form soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyresis Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Bosses will be modified in some form soon. Hopefully this means that aeon wont be as much of a joke as it is now. Being able to kill it with 3 lvl 1 players, or soloing it at lvl 6 is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Yes this is stupid right now for the reasons you say. Just have Aeon spawn at 5 minutes. Problem solved. yes lets take away a strategic option because a few bads kids cant play as a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitNinja Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 yes lets take away a strategic option because a few bads kids cant play as a team I like the level 1 teamfights but this is poorly stated. You are just asserting that you are correct while also presenting a straw man. Eliwan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TungVu Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 How about we balance around pubs and nerf Aeon so that it can't kill anybody. Seems legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestZeratul Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Agreed, I think creeps should also die in one hit cause new players are not as good at last hitting as veterans and it's just unfair in pubs. TungVu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamantium Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 The point of aeon is early game money and some exp if you're level one. If these people quit when they die at aeon, they would probably do the same thing if they died later. This doesn't seem like a very good argument for making it harder to kill. akanna 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitNinja Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 The point of aeon is early game money and some exp if you're level one. You're forgetting to mention that aeon provides an incentive for teams to actively fight each other early on instead of passively farming for the first few minutes. Given that, I think it's perfectly fine to have it at level 1 because it starts the action right away (so you know when your team is too bad to carry). The trick is to make the playerbase less rage-y somehow. Maybe removing first blood would help--I wouldn't like that personally, but hearing "first blood" and seeing your enemies already having a kill can get disheartening to a new player. Perhaps a tutorial instead? You'd have to get people to play it though, which is the real issue. Personally I just want veteran mode back. Maybe beginner mode can have helpful messages every few minutes, including one that reminds players when aeon respawns in an effort to get them to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TungVu Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 So Im hoping you would have seen it by now why balancing around pub is a seriously dumb proposition and a waste of time. I mean wtf, u see pub players complaining about getting killed by Aeon lol. flob me why are u ppl so stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letherl Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I miss old aeon, where you would spawn marines from a dst all around it so you could solo it :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiguy Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 This is almost as bad as the time people suggested that T1 towers be invulnerable before the first wave since pubs were getting themselves killed attempting to copy the 5-man T1 pushes premades/IHs did before the creeps spawned. Eliwan, akanna and FruitNinja 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 So Im hoping you would have seen it by now why balancing around pub is a seriously dumb proposition and a waste of time. I mean wtf, u see pub players complaining about getting killed by Aeon lol. flob me why are u ppl so stupid. Noone complained about getting killed by aeon, either actually read the threads for once or stfu your trash talk is both annoying and pathetic. Oh and hi banzai you didnt stay gone very long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akanna Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 There is nothing wrong with early Aeon, its an option a team chooses to use or doesnt, and if they choose it they know they can get attacked. It all comes down to good teamwork and map awareness. Most of the time you can kill Aeon uncontested, and go for a team gank after to get FB offering an amazing strategic advantage (trade off is you miss first and second wave of creep). If you get rushed while doing it though, Its all a matter of your teamwork. You focus down on attackers one at a time, using whatever skills you can to incapacitate them while everyone hits them. Once one or 2 of the enemy gets picked off they will always run. There is nothing complicated or hard about it. Ppl that rage because aeon doesnt go their way or a few people die early on, shouldnt play the game in the first place. I have been in games where my team didnt work together, lost aeon and FB, and fed to like 10/20+ and we still managed to come back in the late game when ppl got their act together and started working as a team..... Quitting because of a few early deaths just shows a complete lack of faith in their own skills. Its stupid annoying when ppl start calling GG and try to surrender when the game literally just started all bc of a few deaths. You can usually turn things around by playing smart defense till youve closed the gap. So really the problem here is not Aeon but quitters that give up the moment something doesnt go their way, and hoestly you dont want them on your team anyways so let them quit and give you money. Dont hate the boss, hate the noobs that rage. Id much rather play a 5v2 with 1 good ally than have 3 rage noobs on my team anyday I will agree its annoying to have a game start with everyone bailing, but you cant fix bad players, they have to fix themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TungVu Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Are you sure you don't have some sort of reading comprehension disorder nub shi t? flobing scrubs can't handle the truth lol. Just accept that you retar ds are bad and start listening to ppl who are actually better than u k k. I guess I can resort to personal attack too, amirite. BestZeratul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TungVu Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Oh and Im talking to the handicapped nub that is Rem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiguy Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Noone complained about getting killed by aeon, either actually read the threads for once or stfu your trash talk is both annoying and pathetic. Oh and hi banzai you didnt stay gone very long... Just dropping by. Don't a lot of people do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 haha didnt see your popping in message until after this thought you were back ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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