AdReNaLiNe Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I know what some of you are already thinking.. this is a topic about how cyprus is OP...not at all let me explain and see if any1 else agrees... cyprus the new boros in public games...the annoying character that is now in the new patch guaranteed to be on a team and most likly both teams from the way its been going..is he the new average players favorite like boros was? cuz of how easy it is for him to kill any squishy hero? cuz thats the way it seems and its quite annoying.. i was just also wondering if any1 else hates him being on ur team and the other team for a couple reasons... 1) the amount of gay ass rocks that block everything makes things a pain in the ass to get around and most of the time the ur own cyprus will block u and get u killed and not even try to save if he did that... 2) the amount of KS's that an handful cyprus will come in and do...ive have many of times where ill have the guy pretty much dead and a cyprus will come in tele wall then blow it up for the KS quite annoying..i mean couldnt u just been happy with the assit? no all these new beginners(nubs) want the godlikes cuz they can run around and do the 1 hit wonder on any squishy hero... like i said im not saying hes OP just really annoying when hes on both teams..i usually own most cyprus with ease just the fact hes in my way getting me killed or KS my kills that i got and he comes in at last second to steal... was just wondering if any1 else feels this way as i do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 imo, there are some items like blue gene and gravity edge that just give tons of int for a ridiculous prize, like Rancor (and raynor) cyprus now deal insane amounts of damage, a lot of int items were buffed, like argus (20% amp instead of 10, and now it give you the buff, instead giving enemies a debuff) nitrogen retrofit also buffed, and you can also have 60 extra int from ihan and then sell it and buy more int. imo (again) int items (maybe) should be looked because they give amazing stats, i dont call them OP, i see casters very balanced, and no, im not a caster fan, I play every hero. I don't think cyprus is op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdReNaLiNe Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 exactly my point i think the game is very balanced now tanks are tanks/ casters are casters/dps are dps. in the pub world u cant have a boros/zera/shadow carry a whole team with a decent team which is awesome makes the game way funner without being destroyed by 1 player who gets fed..but my whole point here is that he is annoying and was just wondering if any1 felt the same was as i do? nothing to do with OP..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I know cyprus can take down a lot of heros with his combo, but think for example, cyprus can hardly make a double or triple kill alone, once he waste his ulti he can only support blocking ppl with rocks, if he kill again is because he is finishing a damaged hero with the seismic wave. In a game, Cyprus can be very useful to take down the enemy carry, and I think it's his role, once he do that, he is very limited to jump and block with the stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSEnergy Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I know cyprus can take down a lot of heros with his combo, but think for example, cyprus can hardly make a double or triple kill alone, once he waste his ulti he can only support blocking ppl with rocks, if he kill again is because he is finishing a damaged hero with the seismic wave. In a game, Cyprus can be very useful to take down the enemy carry, and I think it's his role, once he do that, he is very limited to jump and block with the stones I've seen Cyprus get Ludacris kills and 3 monster kills in a game? or maybe 2 and a lot more triple kills. But I think that was when gravity edge was still at 50% True dmg :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've seen Cyprus get Ludacris kills and 3 monster kills in a game? or maybe 2 and a lot more triple kills. But I think that was when gravity edge was still at 50% True dmg :/ hmm i dont know, but I think even the 35% true damage is a lot, he got that luda and monster kills alone, like a shadow (for example) could do? or there was in teamfights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitNinja Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Cyprus' passive no longer makes the rocks trap you all the time (this was very annoying to fight against in pubs where your team never cares enough to commit to a teamfight, leaving you alone at the front while they all run away off cd at full health.) and his blink has a longer cooldown now. Unlike boros, cyprus is eligible for tasing as soon as he gets within range, since boros can just pre-SS, which I think is a bigger issue (almost all normal counters to AA heroes don't work on him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Boros is the new Boros, and will still stay that way. Cyprus may now rival his killing power, but a good cyprus' play will only be different from an unskilled cyprus' by the decisions of where to jump in and where to wait a little longer. Boros actually has enough finesse, fun and honor for me to use on appropriate occasions (Inhouses mostly, but also acceptable in grudge-matches). As for kses, it's not a question of hero, but of person. Rancor, Raynor, Cyprus, Zeratul, Shadow, Nova, Dustin, Unix, Garamond, Grunty, Mandrake, Boros, Micro, Balrog, jakk, Kerrigan, and so many more can steal kills with ease. Cyprus is good at it, but no more than most of the above. IMO the most annoying is dustin because he requires just a press of key, and can do it almost instantly from extreme range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I really dont have a problem with cyp after the latest nerfs too him. For a bit he was pretty obnoxious I must admit, but lately I haven't had much issue with cypress raping me I admit I'm building most of my heroes a bit tankier than I usually do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akanna Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 How are you seriously comparing Cyprus to Boros? Sure Cyp is much stronger early game, but boros is much stronger late game. At the end of the day Omni + SS is a bajillion times more powerful than cyprus's silly cannon. The only advantage cyprus has is that his damage isn't random. Cyp isnt really that big a deal, hes super easy to kill bc most people build glass cannon, and his cannon is a 1 off, that leaves him vulnerable (so long as you can stun/silence to prevent blink outs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 imo, there are some items like blue gene and gravity edge that just give tons of int for a ridiculous prize, like Rancor (and raynor) cyprus now deal insane amounts of damage, a lot of int items were buffed, like argus (20% amp instead of 10, and now it give you the buff, instead giving enemies a debuff) nitrogen retrofit also buffed, and you can also have 60 extra int from ihan and then sell it and buy more int. imo (again) int items (maybe) should be looked because they give amazing stats, i dont call them OP, i see casters very balanced, and no, im not a caster fan, I play every hero. I don't think cyprus is op. Argus used to increase spell damage taken by 10%, which is different than 20% spell damage increase to the caster. Also, the range of argus was shorter than max range rancor/raynor snipe so the passive wouldn't always be debuffing the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
residente Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Argus used to increase spell damage taken by 10%, which is different than 20% spell damage increase to the caster. Also, the range of argus was shorter than max range rancor/raynor snipe so the passive wouldn't always be debuffing the enemy. Yep, now nukes and kill shot will ensure the spell amp. Anyway i dont know why the percentage was increased to 20% buff to your spell from 10% debuff to nearby enemies, i mean, why not still a buff to your spells, but 10%? it was not strong enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lOvOl Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Does everyone seem to forget about taser now? I mean you have six inventory slots so if a Cyprus is giving you a hard time, just buy a taser and unless he tasers you first (which is unlikely since most Cyprus players go hard int) then Cyprus won't be much of a problem anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERMANA Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Cyp is Small Kids still i rape all cyps so No he is not me(Op).HeHe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitNinja Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Cyp is Small Kids still i rape all cyps so No he is not me(Op).HeHe wat Does everyone seem to forget about taser now? I mean you have six inventory slots so if a Cyprus is giving you a hard time, just buy a taser and unless he tasers you first (which is unlikely since most Cyprus players go hard int) then Cyprus won't be much of a problem anymore. Seems to me that everyone expects everyone else to get it. Which is why having a support hero might actually be useful now as Brine/Queen can't really do too much damage by themselves. Well, Brine used to be able to with BHM and mantle stacking, now it's not as viable. I still think support brine is better than Tanky DPS brine because he's easily kited, has a terrible attack animation, and his Q doesn't scale with anything but levels and the enemy health. I think CDR (and hence chilling, CoA) is good on him because of the Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixio Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 I always wonder why people care about KS. I mean, when the guy is a douche about it, maybe, but somewhere, as long as you ensure a kill, you're good. So many times I've seen someone try to secure a kill alone when it was a "sure kill", and just got raped by something else that came up. Cyprus also steals elegantly, and quickly, unlike some other solo characters who have to run around and wait for a whole cooldown to reuse a new skill. That time gained by Cyprus jumping in gives you better preparation for the partners of your victim that are soon to fall upon your team if they do it correctly too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneroll Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 idk, why everyone gets 4+int items, i just get argus and gravity, and do HoM and other dps item, its cute and fun Cerebro and lethal barb is fun too with cyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bin Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Cyprus underpowered Cdr passive should increase to 50 Ultimate should deal true damage Blink should reduce 4sec and range increase to 15range. Also I want new rock terrence back,the super long one. Then I can flob Boros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbles Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 there is no hero easier to get kills with than boros. please see signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doxthefox Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 there is no hero easier to get kills with than boros. please see signature. Put boros and stalker on the same team.... profit!!! Stalker burst one.... and boros burst all! Gg no re. Also owl is cute with his tazer. Heres how to counter that logic... blink in do your combo and flobing kill the guy before he can even get his tazer off. I tried him after that game fumzzzzles. Went 4-0 then suicided and rq to play lol at the 14 min mark. Even if you get the tazer off. Hes probably fed at that point and it wont do too much against one with a brain who will position himself to not all in with his blink forward. He's pretty good. I learned about his new passive too. I guess he's better than i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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